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<blockquote data-quote="Harzel" data-source="post: 7221711" data-attributes="member: 6857506"><p>Wait. What? So the DM thinks, "Fizzbin the Wizard says he is using his Mage Hand to pluck Tribbles the goldfish out of its bowl. Well, that seems possible, but uncertain, so I will call for a DEX check. Wait, that means a die roll for the use of Mage Hand, so that must be impossible. Wait, since it is impossible, there is no reason for me to have contemplated a die roll, so I no longer have any basis for deciding that it is impossible..." Hours later, the DM, seemingly emerging from a fog, comes to and turns to the two players who are twins that he can never tell apart. Looking at one, he says, "I like <em>you</em>." Turning to the other, he continues, "However, I hate <em>you."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em>A die roll is a procedure that a DM may use to tell whether an attempt to do something succeeds or fails. It is not an inherent property of an action.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So then, anything for which the rules do not give an explicit mechanic is impossible? I don't mean to offend by throwing up a strawman, but you have stated this as if "the spell gives no mechanic for it" needs no qualification or other assumptions in order to conclude that the thing lacking stated mechanics is impossible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harzel, post: 7221711, member: 6857506"] Wait. What? So the DM thinks, "Fizzbin the Wizard says he is using his Mage Hand to pluck Tribbles the goldfish out of its bowl. Well, that seems possible, but uncertain, so I will call for a DEX check. Wait, that means a die roll for the use of Mage Hand, so that must be impossible. Wait, since it is impossible, there is no reason for me to have contemplated a die roll, so I no longer have any basis for deciding that it is impossible..." Hours later, the DM, seemingly emerging from a fog, comes to and turns to the two players who are twins that he can never tell apart. Looking at one, he says, "I like [I]you[/I]." Turning to the other, he continues, "However, I hate [I]you." [/I]A die roll is a procedure that a DM may use to tell whether an attempt to do something succeeds or fails. It is not an inherent property of an action. So then, anything for which the rules do not give an explicit mechanic is impossible? I don't mean to offend by throwing up a strawman, but you have stated this as if "the spell gives no mechanic for it" needs no qualification or other assumptions in order to conclude that the thing lacking stated mechanics is impossible. [/QUOTE]
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