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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 2457747" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>Yes, but his way of thinking of it appears to be "ok, great, you are right that they had no effect while you were blinded, but now you MADE your save against the first one, so the rest can blind you now." Which appears, at least to me, to be a lot of work to reverse time and do half of the last round over again.</p><p></p><p>I think the DM ruled that the sunbeam spells were fire (despite it not saying so) and I had an energy immunity(fire) up at the time, so the only effect they had was to blind me. So, after I was blinded, I stopped making saves.</p><p></p><p>Either way, we spent about 30 minutes arguing about it today where he told me that he couldn't concieve of a possible way to have a 1st level spell negate an infinite number of spells. He sees it as negating all the other sunbursts because, since they all affected me at once, I was affected by multiple blindnesses and the save only negates one of them.</p><p></p><p>I believe he calculated the CR of the trap using the DMG as CR 20, which he said was appropriate for a 20th level game. Now that I think about it, they were sunbursts, not sunbeams. That's why they affected everyone. I actually don't remember the EXACT number of sunbursts, but he was bragging that he thought it was dumb that, according the the DMG he could use THAT many 8th level spells and only be considered CR 20. That's why he used it.</p><p></p><p>Then again, he prides himself on the idea that, since his game is a level 20 game, he intends to show all the players that it is MORE deadly when they are that powerful, not less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 2457747, member: 5143"] Yes, but his way of thinking of it appears to be "ok, great, you are right that they had no effect while you were blinded, but now you MADE your save against the first one, so the rest can blind you now." Which appears, at least to me, to be a lot of work to reverse time and do half of the last round over again. I think the DM ruled that the sunbeam spells were fire (despite it not saying so) and I had an energy immunity(fire) up at the time, so the only effect they had was to blind me. So, after I was blinded, I stopped making saves. Either way, we spent about 30 minutes arguing about it today where he told me that he couldn't concieve of a possible way to have a 1st level spell negate an infinite number of spells. He sees it as negating all the other sunbursts because, since they all affected me at once, I was affected by multiple blindnesses and the save only negates one of them. I believe he calculated the CR of the trap using the DMG as CR 20, which he said was appropriate for a 20th level game. Now that I think about it, they were sunbursts, not sunbeams. That's why they affected everyone. I actually don't remember the EXACT number of sunbursts, but he was bragging that he thought it was dumb that, according the the DMG he could use THAT many 8th level spells and only be considered CR 20. That's why he used it. Then again, he prides himself on the idea that, since his game is a level 20 game, he intends to show all the players that it is MORE deadly when they are that powerful, not less. [/QUOTE]
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