revenant warforged componant/embed question

[hipnotode]

another question; basically can revenant warforged use attached components/embed components? it seams a bit silly that just because theyve raised from the dead they cant use there old equipment, but i see nothing there saying they can. do they have to take the self-forged PP to achieve this?

many thanks in advance,
-hip

 

[Mentat55]

Unfortunately, the requirement for attached components is that the wielder must have the living construct racial quality. I do not think the revenant's Past Life quality helps with that.

 

[hipnotode]

so un-living constructs not getting components means revenant warforged cant get till 16, more metal than flesh's specific trumping general.
or theres a level 17 ring that lets you.
i was more hoping that to be able to at a lower level though. can anyone think of another way to gain ability to attach components? maybe a heritage feat or something that changes/ads a keyword...

[edit: i think i was thinking of bloodline feats]

 

[Aulirophile]

False Blood Amulet. You gain the origin/keywords of a race of choice > Living Construct. Only comes in +2 Enhance and isn't RPGA legal.

 

[hipnotode]

thanks again, level 7 item is much better, even if its not RPGA legal.

 

[Klaus]

another question; basically can revenant warforged use attached components/embed components? it seams a bit silly that just because theyve raised from the dead they cant use there old equipment, but i see nothing there saying they can. do they have to take the self-forged PP to achieve this?

many thanks in advance,
-hip

You have to keep in mind that the warforged revenant is no longer in his original body. It's like C3PO died and came back as Brandon Lee in The Crow. Only the soul remains the same.

 

[hipnotode]

You have to keep in mind that the warforged revenant is no longer in his original body. It's like C3PO died and came back as Brandon Lee in The Crow. Only the soul remains the same.

oh okay, i was picturing a warforged, but its wood paneling rotting off, and broken mechanical parts inside showing that where struggling to work ect.
somehow it being just the soul of a worforged isnt so cool.
oh well. thanks for the clarification anyway.

 

[Klaus]

oh okay, i was picturing a warforged, but its wood paneling rotting off, and broken mechanical parts inside showing that where struggling to work ect.
somehow it being just the soul of a worforged isnt so cool.
oh well. thanks for the clarification anyway.

Yeah, the revenant isn't quite what's advertised in the can. I'm not too keen on any race coming back as Brandon Lee, but that's what it is. I have my own take on why they look like they do, though.

 

[Mentat55]

oh okay, i was picturing a warforged, but its wood paneling rotting off, and broken mechanical parts inside showing that where struggling to work ect.
somehow it being just the soul of a worforged isnt so cool.
oh well. thanks for the clarification anyway.

I think you could totally go with that image. After all, some Eberron sourcebook introduced the idea of undead "woeforged" (what a woefully terrible name).

You could then imagine that the reason the attached or embedded components do not work is that something fundamental has changed in the warforged, whether it be the magic that gave rise to the warforged originally or the soul bound to the construct body, such that the components, while they do attach, do not function.

 

[spayne]

Even with the False Blood Amulet you cannot use some of the warforged components.


The items that say "Special: Only a warforged character can use this item." are not usable. Revenant only makes you count as a warforged for meeting prerequisites, not for other purposes such as this Special: line.