Roll for Combat reveals the terms of the "sweetheart deal" offered to 3pp

[Dannyalcatraz]

Trusting D&Dshorts again. This thread is getting pathetic.

I can’t wait for this OGL nonsense to die down.

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Please, if you can’t contribute to the discussion thoughtfully, don’t post provocatively.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I pointed out that my phrase was ‘don’t know you’re born’ you’re either British or have lived in Britain long enough to get the idiom.

Don't try and tell me what I do and don't know, that's just shenanigans on your part. You chose to be vague and obfuscate meaning behind obscure idiom.

If you’re gonna just lie then let’s stop here. I pointed out that my phrase was ‘don’t know you’re born’ you’re either British or have lived in Britain long enough to get the idiom. You know full well it doesn’t mean gullible, but rather unappreciative of how lucky you are.

I've never in my entire life, heard it used that way, and I'm a Cockney, mate. I've only ever heard it used to imply that people are wet behind the ears, usually in a rude and pushy way to try and get them to accept a bad deal. Maybe you shouldn't use dodgy idiom? I've never even heard it out of the mouth of anyone I wouldn't loosely term a "crook" or at best a wheeler-dealer before this (and I think I've heard it maybe three times ever? Four counting this I guess). I'm sure it means what you say somewhere, or in some age group, but not on my manor, or certainly not for people my age and below. How about that?

I can go around talking about how I'm brassic or whatever but I can't blame others if people on messageboards don't immediately get what I mean.

Repeating 25% becauze it’s a larger number while ignoring the reality reveals either a lack of business acumen

LOL, get your story straight.

You just claimed that you weren't saying people who thought WotC were offering a bad deal were stupid/born yesterday, and now you're calling me stupid for not going with the 15% number? Come on.

Companies taking over 1.5m every year just in D&D related PDFs and books? At that point it’s not a small D&D publisher, they don’t equate to 99% of those 15,000 publishers and designers.

Mate, the others weren't even offered the deal.

And again, if it was such a good deal, why did WotC immediately abandon it and drop to 0%? You're really giving me some "Bloke down Chapel Street market circa 1990 trying to sell my mum a broken vacuum cleaner" vibes right now.

 

[Morrus]

Don't try and tell me what I do and don't know, that's just shenanigans on your part. You chose to be vague and obfuscate meaning behind obscure idiom.

I've never in my entire life, heard it used that way, and I'm a Cockney, mate. I've only ever heard it used to imply that people are wet behind the ears, usually in a rude and pushy way to try and get them to accept a bad deal. Maybe you shouldn't use dodgy idiom? I've never even heard it out of the mouth of anyone I wouldn't loosely term a "crook" or at best a wheeler-dealer before this (and I think I've heard it maybe three times ever? Four counting this I guess). I'm sure it means what you say somewhere, or in some age group, but not on my manor, or certainly not for people my age and below. How about that?

I can go around talking about how I'm brassic or whatever but I can't blame others if people on messageboards don't immediately get what I mean.

LOL, get your story straight.

You just claimed that you weren't saying people who thought WotC were offering a bad deal were stupid/born yesterday, and now you're calling me stupid for not going with the 15% number? Come on.

Mate, the others weren't even offered the deal.

And again, if it was such a good deal, why did WotC immediately abandon it and drop to 0%? You're really giving me some "Bloke down Chapel Street market circa 1990 trying to sell my mum a broken vacuum cleaner" vibes right now.

Calm down.

 

[delericho]

• 6 articles about your product on D&D Beyond
• 6 emails about your product to D&D Beyond users
• 8 social media posts on D&D Beyond or D&D branded channels
• 2 YouTube videos on D&D Beyond or D&D branded channels
• 6 days of D&D Beyond home page placement

All of these are pretty good sweeteners. WotC must have been really desperate to see people signing away their rights.

(The 15% revenue was, and is, crazy of course - even as a reduction from 25% it's still awful.)

 

[Mecheon]

All of these are pretty good sweeteners. WotC must have been really desperate to see people signing away their rights.

Eh, some of them I'm skeptical on. Way I browse, the emails sent I'd consider a bit of a write off if other people are anything like me with email, alongside the social media posts and maaaybe the D&D Beyond home page placement. Doing a quick scan of D&D Beyond's youtube, seems their most recent stuff gets around the ~8k mark on average which, while certainly not bad (I am conciously aware my best video only has 14k videos), isn't world shattering, and how many of those translate to things being brought I couldn't say

 

[MNblockhead]

Buying out DM's Guild and integrating it with DDB and Sandcastle would make a lot of sense.

What's "Sandcastle"?

 

[Haplo781]

What's "Sandcastle"?

Codename for the in-house VTT

 

[Arilyn]

Maybe "sandcastle" is not the best name they could have chosen for something that I assume they want to last.

 

[Branduil]

8 social media posts over 2 years is hilariously bad. Like, it literally costs nothing to make a social media post, you could automate an advertisement every single day if you wanted to. And they were offering 1 post per 3 months. LOL. LMAO even.

 

[Jer]

Maybe "sandcastle" is not the best name they could have chosen for something that I assume they want to last.

I'm positive that someone was thinking sandbox but better when they picked the name.