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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7467050" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>There's another couple of presuppositions in your statement: That the monster is (1) acting on specific knowledge and (2) it "shouldn't have" that knowledge. In the example I provided, the DM knows that it may make the combat challenge more difficulty by having the monsters focus fire. Presumably, he or she wants to do that because it is a choice that will be fun for everyone and will help lead to an exciting, memorable story. Is the orc acting on knowledge it shouldn't have? Not unless the DM declares that it is. The orc can be acting in the manner the DM decides for just about any other reason. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if I did agree that group initiative impacts difficulty in any appreciable way, what you say is that sometimes the PCs all go first, sometimes the monsters all go first, and sometimes some the monsters go in the middle of the PCs' order. Which seems fair to me.</p><p></p><p>As well, there are many things the PCs can do mitigate or avoid outcomes where the PC is cut down early in the fight. Without even including all the events and decisions that led to the PCs running into the melee range of an orc war band, if the players know the orcs are coming for the rogue first, then it would be smart to, say, spend Inspiration on their Initiative rolls. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unless the events leading up to the encounter with the orcs were unfair, I don't really see how the player has any grounds to be annoyed with that outcome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7467050, member: 97077"] There's another couple of presuppositions in your statement: That the monster is (1) acting on specific knowledge and (2) it "shouldn't have" that knowledge. In the example I provided, the DM knows that it may make the combat challenge more difficulty by having the monsters focus fire. Presumably, he or she wants to do that because it is a choice that will be fun for everyone and will help lead to an exciting, memorable story. Is the orc acting on knowledge it shouldn't have? Not unless the DM declares that it is. The orc can be acting in the manner the DM decides for just about any other reason. Even if I did agree that group initiative impacts difficulty in any appreciable way, what you say is that sometimes the PCs all go first, sometimes the monsters all go first, and sometimes some the monsters go in the middle of the PCs' order. Which seems fair to me. As well, there are many things the PCs can do mitigate or avoid outcomes where the PC is cut down early in the fight. Without even including all the events and decisions that led to the PCs running into the melee range of an orc war band, if the players know the orcs are coming for the rogue first, then it would be smart to, say, spend Inspiration on their Initiative rolls. Unless the events leading up to the encounter with the orcs were unfair, I don't really see how the player has any grounds to be annoyed with that outcome. [/QUOTE]
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