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So How Deadly is Lava Anway? (Forked From: If it's not real then . . . )

unan oranis

First Post
Don't forget, if the person falling in has absolute immunity to heat and toxins, the liquid stone will still engulf and crush/drown them to death very quickly.

Seen it happen (in fakeworld).
 

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hamishspence

Adventurer
Draconomicon 4th ed had stats for lava in the Volcano encounter, and not a instakill kind. Still does a heaping hunk of fire damage. And falling onto it does typical damage as for solid ground.
 

Bohemian Earspoon

First Post
If it has a skin, maybe it should be treated like ice: fall through the skin, take hideous damage, then get carried away from the hole you made by the current...
 

Callistoga Kid

First Post
Well the DM has the final call as always, but here's what I came up with from an adventure I plan on running in the future.



Heat deals nonlethal damage that cannot be recovered until the character gets cooled off... Once rendered unconscious through the accumulation of nonlethal damage, the character begins to take lethal damage at the same rate.

In areas of severe heat (above 110 degrees F)... a character must make a Fortitude save once every 10 minutes (DC 15, +1 for each previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage. Characters wearing heavy clothing or armor of any sort take a -4 penalty on their saves. A character with the Survival skill may receive a bonus on this saving throw and may be able to apply this bonus to other characters as well. Characters reduced to unconsciousness begin taking lethal damage (1d4 points for each 10 minute period).

Areas of extreme heat (air temperature over 140 degrees F)... deal lethal damage. The spell endure elements is not sufficient to protect creatures not acclimated to fire. Breathing air in these temperatures deals 1d6 points of damage per minute (no save). In addition, those wearing metal armor or coming into contact with very hot metal are affected as if by a heat metal spell.

Lava or magma deals 2d6 points of damage per round of exposure, except in the case of total immersion (such as when the character falls into the crater of an active volcano), which deals 20d6 points of damage per round. Damage from magma continues for 1d3 rounds after exposure ceases, but this additional damage is only half of that dealt during actual contact (that is, 1d6 or 10d6 points per round).

An immunity or resistance to fire serves as an immunity to lava or magma. However, a creature immune to fire might still drown if completely immersed in lava.

Chris Doyle and Adrian Pommier, Castle Whiterock, pages 488 and 496.



Hope this helps.
 



Henrix

Explorer
A living being wouldn't sink in lava. Molten rock has a higher density than flesh.

If you walk on it your feet would probably sink (like in mud).

You'd probably be roasted to ash and smoke on top of the lava pretty instantly, though.

But drowning in it (if throughly protected) would probably be very hard to achieve.
 


ryryguy

First Post
There are different varieties of lava which have different temperatures. Thus the picture of the hikers very close to the pahoehoe (? I think) lava in Hawaii. People have been known to survive falling into that kind of lava though they get badly burned. At the museum at the Volcano National Park in Hawaii they display the burned clothing of a scientist who fell into the lava and survived. I couldn't find a link to that story, but here's one:

Tourist falls into lava | The Honolulu Advertiser | Hawaii's Newspaper
 

Maldin

First Post
Just looking at the kind of damage that was done to someone with Darth Vader's hitpoints, even at the distance he was from the lava, should tell you something!

Also, note that the article ryryguy linked to includes several reports of people who died quite far from the lava (50 and 100 yards!). It does not, however, provide details of the survivor incident. I suspect he fell on cooling (yet still hot), solid lava and not actual molten lava... or the burn damage would have been FAR more extensive both in area and depth. His entire arm would have been plunged into it and charcoaled to the bone, not just "first and second degree burns on his hand and hip". 2700 degrees is something that kills instantly.

Denis, aka "Maldin" (who is actually a geologist in real life)
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