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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 7133511" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>Again, as stated numerous times up thread, many people, myself included, feel that swimming in other than calm water should not be automatic. To quote the PHB, pg 175; "You struggle to swim or stay afloat in treacherous currents,..."</p><p>What defines treacherous? Up to the DM. I understand that.</p><p></p><p>Again, a liberal reading of RAW indicates that every player can swim regardless. RAW also indicates it is up to the DM to determine what a difficult situation is; "Your Strength (Athletics) check covers</p><p>difficult situations you encounter while climbing, jumping, or swimming."</p><p></p><p>If for you having combat on a boat and being thrown overboard and having it become a hazard is not fun for you and your party, then use the liberal interpretation of RAW and your knight carrying a backpack with 200 pounds of lead swims automatically and can grab onto the side of the boat and lift himself back in without a problem.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if it might be fun for you to throw in the possibility of struggle, where the mage with a strength of 6 and in heavy cotton robes might have to be thrown a rope to get back on board, then, liberal RAW isn't going to do that for you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is this horse dead yet? It's been beat pretty thoroughly now. Heavy armor isn't the only consideration that is being suggested.</p><p></p><p>See the response above to Flamestrike.</p><p></p><p>As for the Navy Seals, none of the rulings being discussed now would prevent them from being the heroes they are portrayed as.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 7133511, member: 6804070"] Again, as stated numerous times up thread, many people, myself included, feel that swimming in other than calm water should not be automatic. To quote the PHB, pg 175; "You struggle to swim or stay afloat in treacherous currents,..." What defines treacherous? Up to the DM. I understand that. Again, a liberal reading of RAW indicates that every player can swim regardless. RAW also indicates it is up to the DM to determine what a difficult situation is; "Your Strength (Athletics) check covers difficult situations you encounter while climbing, jumping, or swimming." If for you having combat on a boat and being thrown overboard and having it become a hazard is not fun for you and your party, then use the liberal interpretation of RAW and your knight carrying a backpack with 200 pounds of lead swims automatically and can grab onto the side of the boat and lift himself back in without a problem. On the other hand, if it might be fun for you to throw in the possibility of struggle, where the mage with a strength of 6 and in heavy cotton robes might have to be thrown a rope to get back on board, then, liberal RAW isn't going to do that for you. Is this horse dead yet? It's been beat pretty thoroughly now. Heavy armor isn't the only consideration that is being suggested. See the response above to Flamestrike. As for the Navy Seals, none of the rulings being discussed now would prevent them from being the heroes they are portrayed as. [/QUOTE]
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