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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7194849" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Okay I'm at my computer now... but I really don't know what to say. "Cool character, bro" perhaps?</p><p></p><p>I'm afraid that if you want to make a case that GWM isn't "all that", you need to create a character that uses the feat in an optimal way (or close to it, anyway), yet derives not so much benefit that we can call the feat overpowered.</p><p></p><p>The argument isn't "the feat is overpowered to Greenhorn Sue or Average Joe", after all. The argument is that "for a player knowing what he's doing, the -5/+10 mechanism is too abusable, too strong. Since there aren't any alternate means to similar amounts of damage, this leads to every damage-focussed martial PC looking the same, which reduces variability and choice. The feat needs to be removed."</p><p></p><p>Feel free to make a new attempt where the character we're trying to study is a Battlemaster Fighter with the Precision Maneuver (and the Lucky and GWM feats) and that the monster has Fairie Fire applied to it*.</p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">*) you could equally well say the monster is prone, or that it his monk-stunned, or anything else granting us advantage really</span></p><p></p><p>As for the monster's AC, let's begin at a soft AC 15. We can easily redo the calculations at AC 18 later. We won't assume any magical bonuses at this point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7194849, member: 12731"] Okay I'm at my computer now... but I really don't know what to say. "Cool character, bro" perhaps? I'm afraid that if you want to make a case that GWM isn't "all that", you need to create a character that uses the feat in an optimal way (or close to it, anyway), yet derives not so much benefit that we can call the feat overpowered. The argument isn't "the feat is overpowered to Greenhorn Sue or Average Joe", after all. The argument is that "for a player knowing what he's doing, the -5/+10 mechanism is too abusable, too strong. Since there aren't any alternate means to similar amounts of damage, this leads to every damage-focussed martial PC looking the same, which reduces variability and choice. The feat needs to be removed." Feel free to make a new attempt where the character we're trying to study is a Battlemaster Fighter with the Precision Maneuver (and the Lucky and GWM feats) and that the monster has Fairie Fire applied to it*. [SIZE=1]*) you could equally well say the monster is prone, or that it his monk-stunned, or anything else granting us advantage really[/SIZE] As for the monster's AC, let's begin at a soft AC 15. We can easily redo the calculations at AC 18 later. We won't assume any magical bonuses at this point. [/QUOTE]
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