The curse placed on Irving Pulling?

[Baron Opal]

As long as we're being PC regarding a person who absolutely does not deserve it, perhaps we should not marginalize her gender by referring to her antics as "hysterics".

Just sayin'.

--Erik

It seems an appropriate word for the actions, regardless of her gender.

Anyway, the take home point seems to be that only one person definitively mentioned a curse, the specifics were never recorded and the people who could comment are either ignorant of it or deceased.

 

[jonesy]

That's just the road to being intentionally ignorant and that's not a good road to be on.

Sometimes it really is. It's called being a functioning human. It's called not obsessing about things you do not need to obsess about. It's called selective knowledge.

You can't know or remember everything. You can keep the knowledge in a database for future reference, but you do not need to know every single detail of something until the need for it arises.

She does not need to be specifically remembered. She is not [Godwins Law].

 

[Umbran]

It's not about being vindictive.

"Ridicule" is mockery and derision. "She deserved it," sure sounds like an attempt at justice or vengeance for her actions. That sure sounds like being vindictive to me.

There's a difference between speaking the truth for the edification of the future, and "making fun of people because they deserve it". One's history, the other isn't. It behooves us to not confuse the two.

 

[billd91]

"Ridicule" is mockery and derision. "She deserved it," sure sounds like an attempt at justice or vengeance for her actions. That sure sounds like being vindictive to me.

There's a difference between speaking the truth for the edification of the future, and "making fun of people because they deserve it". One's history, the other isn't. It behooves us to not confuse the two.

Umbran, the world you choose to live in must be very, very serious indeed if nothing can be held up for ridicule, which is pretty much the position you're laying out.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

"Ridicule" is mockery and derision. "She deserved it," sure sounds like an attempt at justice or vengeance for her actions. That sure sounds like being vindictive to me.

So, justice = vindictive?

 

[malraux]

Umbran, the world you choose to live in must be very, very serious indeed if nothing can be held up for ridicule, which is pretty much the position you're laying out.

Ridicule is mean and spiteful. Its laughing at rather than with. Turned against a person many years past, its really not a good thing, especially as she was basically the only person who believed in her ideas after a while.

It would be far more instructive to understand the more general mindset behind the ideas like BADD, satanic ritual abuse, and the whole host of examples of moral panics.

 

[carmachu]

Because we should be better people than that. Because we generally enjoy a hobby about being heroes, not vindictive jerks.

We also enjoy a hobby that involves killing things and taking their stuff. And when your buddy dies, you loot his body.

Lets not get carried away about what we enjoy......

 

[renau1g]

Yeah.... in general adventurers are mass-murderers

 

[billd91]

Ridicule is mean and spiteful. Its laughing at rather than with. Turned against a person many years past, its really not a good thing, especially as she was basically the only person who believed in her ideas after a while.

No, she wasn't the only person. There are other people who still believe the same nonsense she spouted. They're just a bit more in the lunatic fringe, where she belonged.
There are things and people who should be laughed at rather than with.

It would be far more instructive to understand the more general mindset behind the ideas like BADD, satanic ritual abuse, and the whole host of examples of moral panics.

You can do that and still ridicule.

 

[malraux]

No, she wasn't the only person. There are other people who still believe the same nonsense she spouted. They're just a bit more in the lunatic fringe, where she belonged.
There are things and people who should be laughed at rather than with.

BADD was down to just her at the end. Sure, Jack Chick might still agree with her, but it's not like anyone takes him seriously either.

As a distinction, these ideas should be mocked. The idea that DnD leads to Satanism or suicide is pure derp. Mocking the people is dehumanizing.