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<blockquote data-quote="Rowenoake" data-source="post: 6827989" data-attributes="member: 6815346"><p>So, I have to admit that I was being a bit lazy with my previous calculations in that I didn't include the value of crit damage into the average damage. This is in no small part because they can be a pain to calculate (square the number of possible results for a standard attack), but it needed to be said. Of course, having that sit in my mind overnight meant that I needed to fix it today. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm :-S" data-shortname=":-S" /></p><p></p><p>The gist of the result is that the break point shifted down the chart, meaning Savage Attacker does more average damage on targets with 16AC or less at lvl1-4 with 16 Str. The rest of the conclusions remain the same (+1 damage, move up {roughly} one space; +1 to hit, move down one space). This also means that at +6 prof bonus, the break point moves to 20AC or less. I'll go back and update the previous table to reflect.</p><p></p><p>Also, I made some quick adjustments to look at how it compared when the Champion's Improved Critical range was through in. The break point moved to 17AC or less at +2 proficiency bonus and 21AC or less at +6 proficiency bonus. If you want, I can try posting those numbers as well. If I get really motivated, I might even try testing for the Half-Orc racial crit bonus, but seeing as there are almost 3 million possible permutaions (12^6), I may just end up being too lazy. We'll see...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rowenoake, post: 6827989, member: 6815346"] So, I have to admit that I was being a bit lazy with my previous calculations in that I didn't include the value of crit damage into the average damage. This is in no small part because they can be a pain to calculate (square the number of possible results for a standard attack), but it needed to be said. Of course, having that sit in my mind overnight meant that I needed to fix it today. :-S The gist of the result is that the break point shifted down the chart, meaning Savage Attacker does more average damage on targets with 16AC or less at lvl1-4 with 16 Str. The rest of the conclusions remain the same (+1 damage, move up {roughly} one space; +1 to hit, move down one space). This also means that at +6 prof bonus, the break point moves to 20AC or less. I'll go back and update the previous table to reflect. Also, I made some quick adjustments to look at how it compared when the Champion's Improved Critical range was through in. The break point moved to 17AC or less at +2 proficiency bonus and 21AC or less at +6 proficiency bonus. If you want, I can try posting those numbers as well. If I get really motivated, I might even try testing for the Half-Orc racial crit bonus, but seeing as there are almost 3 million possible permutaions (12^6), I may just end up being too lazy. We'll see... [/QUOTE]
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