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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 4737293" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>I was probably unclear.</p><p></p><p>When I said "worthless" I mean from the point of view of the camp that believes Wild Shape turns you completely into an animal.</p><p></p><p>You can probably agree having to Bluff the Goblin into believing you're "just a harmless old hound" is worthless comparing to simply <em>becoming</em> a harmless old hound...? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, you're still not seeing my point.</p><p></p><p>My point is that there are this other camp of people who believe their view of Wild Shape isn't a houserule but a completely natural interpretation of the rules.</p><p></p><p>And in the same way you are unquestionlingly talking about "becoming the old dog" as a house-rule, they are equally shocked you could even suggest you only become someone that could Bluff others into believing you're a dog, when to them, you become the dog.</p><p></p><p>Not saying either camp is right.</p><p> </p><p>What I <em>am</em> saying is there are two camps, and that the inability of each to even see that there is another camp is what's causing the confusion on the forums over questions like "why is the Druid so overpowered?" and "how can people even think the Druid to be overpowered?"</p><p></p><p>Cheers! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 4737293, member: 12731"] I was probably unclear. When I said "worthless" I mean from the point of view of the camp that believes Wild Shape turns you completely into an animal. You can probably agree having to Bluff the Goblin into believing you're "just a harmless old hound" is worthless comparing to simply [I]becoming[/I] a harmless old hound...? :) Well, you're still not seeing my point. My point is that there are this other camp of people who believe their view of Wild Shape isn't a houserule but a completely natural interpretation of the rules. And in the same way you are unquestionlingly talking about "becoming the old dog" as a house-rule, they are equally shocked you could even suggest you only become someone that could Bluff others into believing you're a dog, when to them, you become the dog. Not saying either camp is right. What I [I]am[/I] saying is there are two camps, and that the inability of each to even see that there is another camp is what's causing the confusion on the forums over questions like "why is the Druid so overpowered?" and "how can people even think the Druid to be overpowered?" Cheers! :) [/QUOTE]
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