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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5868339" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>More like a ring of <em>Shapechange</em>, without any of the limits.</p><p></p><p>So, start thinking Epic level item, whether that item is a single ring of a bag of rings. Become the Tarrasque? Definitely Epic.</p><p></p><p>Where would the Curse aspect come? Most commonly a cursed ring is one you won't or can't take off. That doesn't sound like what you're talking about.</p><p></p><p>The other "cursed" item is one with a defect or unwanted side effect. That also doesn't sound like what you're describing.</p><p></p><p>The third type is the kind where the power of the item can't really be controlled. Classically items like "cursed" scrolls would be examples, in that they invoke the spell on them normally, but when you start to look at them, rather than when you try to cast from them.</p><p></p><p>What yo seem to be looking for is the item that "accidentally" grants you huge power whenever you want it, that goes away when the power is inconvenient, and is a "curse" only in that it costs less to make.</p><p></p><p>The phrase that comes to mind is Dispel BS!</p><p></p><p>Now, what would the ring cost? An individual ring with Polymorph on it would be 5x9x2000 for a ring with the 5th level spell Polymnorph on it. I'd allow up to a 10% discount if the ring always shifted you to the same form. But remember, you only get that form for a short time, 9 rounds, if I recall correctly.</p><p></p><p>And, of course, buy each ring seprately.</p><p></p><p>Want to convert to something with more levels/hit dice than your character does? That sounds like <em>Shape Change,</em> a 9th level spell with a 17th level caster requirement. For that, the cost is 9x17x2000 per ring, minus the discount for the single form again.</p><p></p><p>Now you want to craft them with Wish? Not a problem, though it might take several. A Wish is supposed to have a limit on what it can make, and remember the Exp cost of 5,000 per Wish cast.</p><p></p><p>It gets real ugly, real fast. And a lot of things, like turning into a Tarrasque, are decidedly Epic. Turning into the Chromatic Dragon will likely be Epic, and will probably draw the ire of Tiamat, which is a problem in it's own right.</p><p></p><p>As a DM I wouldn't allow most of the rings you seem to want. Your own DM is, of course, free to disagree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5868339, member: 6669384"] More like a ring of [I]Shapechange[/I], without any of the limits. So, start thinking Epic level item, whether that item is a single ring of a bag of rings. Become the Tarrasque? Definitely Epic. Where would the Curse aspect come? Most commonly a cursed ring is one you won't or can't take off. That doesn't sound like what you're talking about. The other "cursed" item is one with a defect or unwanted side effect. That also doesn't sound like what you're describing. The third type is the kind where the power of the item can't really be controlled. Classically items like "cursed" scrolls would be examples, in that they invoke the spell on them normally, but when you start to look at them, rather than when you try to cast from them. What yo seem to be looking for is the item that "accidentally" grants you huge power whenever you want it, that goes away when the power is inconvenient, and is a "curse" only in that it costs less to make. The phrase that comes to mind is Dispel BS! Now, what would the ring cost? An individual ring with Polymorph on it would be 5x9x2000 for a ring with the 5th level spell Polymnorph on it. I'd allow up to a 10% discount if the ring always shifted you to the same form. But remember, you only get that form for a short time, 9 rounds, if I recall correctly. And, of course, buy each ring seprately. Want to convert to something with more levels/hit dice than your character does? That sounds like [I]Shape Change,[/I] a 9th level spell with a 17th level caster requirement. For that, the cost is 9x17x2000 per ring, minus the discount for the single form again. Now you want to craft them with Wish? Not a problem, though it might take several. A Wish is supposed to have a limit on what it can make, and remember the Exp cost of 5,000 per Wish cast. It gets real ugly, real fast. And a lot of things, like turning into a Tarrasque, are decidedly Epic. Turning into the Chromatic Dragon will likely be Epic, and will probably draw the ire of Tiamat, which is a problem in it's own right. As a DM I wouldn't allow most of the rings you seem to want. Your own DM is, of course, free to disagree. [/QUOTE]
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