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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7353157" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>thanks... this is quite on point.</p><p></p><p>Now, apparently the Sage has ruled differently - that the counter spell would need to be done at the casting - that the casting occurs when the ready action is taken - not later when the energy is released. Another developer of 5e based material also ruled that way separate of sage for his product. That also matches the wording in the ready - which says the spell is cast as *when8 you ready the spell "When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs." </p><p></p><p>But i can certainly understand the desire to have counterspell be applicable at relase - otherwise the "duck behind corner, ready cast, step out and release is a very easy way to get counter-spell proof spells off if there is even moderate terrain to use for blocking line of sight and according to many counterspell is an extremely common and effective tactical choice at higher levels. But, that case was even mentioned in the tweets thread overall of the counter-at-cast-ready ruling.</p><p></p><p>Still no clear ruling on dispel vs ready-energy-held - tho the "other developer" did say what i had originally worried - that dispel needs the spell to already be in effect and so that "held-energy" stage is post-counter-spell and pre-dispel and so basically in a limbo protected state it seems.</p><p></p><p>And the perception of "held energy" still no real semi-official or official responses. For that, i will likely keep to my original idea that *if* the final effect is perceivable then the held energy is perceivable and not create even more of a "limbo" state between "visible casting and visible effect" of "invisible held energy." </p><p></p><p>then again, maybe more official answers would be coming? Doubt it, so far i have zero tweet response directly.</p><p></p><p>thanks again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7353157, member: 6919838"] thanks... this is quite on point. Now, apparently the Sage has ruled differently - that the counter spell would need to be done at the casting - that the casting occurs when the ready action is taken - not later when the energy is released. Another developer of 5e based material also ruled that way separate of sage for his product. That also matches the wording in the ready - which says the spell is cast as *when8 you ready the spell "When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs." But i can certainly understand the desire to have counterspell be applicable at relase - otherwise the "duck behind corner, ready cast, step out and release is a very easy way to get counter-spell proof spells off if there is even moderate terrain to use for blocking line of sight and according to many counterspell is an extremely common and effective tactical choice at higher levels. But, that case was even mentioned in the tweets thread overall of the counter-at-cast-ready ruling. Still no clear ruling on dispel vs ready-energy-held - tho the "other developer" did say what i had originally worried - that dispel needs the spell to already be in effect and so that "held-energy" stage is post-counter-spell and pre-dispel and so basically in a limbo protected state it seems. And the perception of "held energy" still no real semi-official or official responses. For that, i will likely keep to my original idea that *if* the final effect is perceivable then the held energy is perceivable and not create even more of a "limbo" state between "visible casting and visible effect" of "invisible held energy." then again, maybe more official answers would be coming? Doubt it, so far i have zero tweet response directly. thanks again. [/QUOTE]
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