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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6748663" data-attributes="member: 25818"><p><strong>Originally posted by Hellcow:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of them. I'll point out that in The Gates of Night, Xu'sasar encounters the ghost scorpion - an important piece of the stories of her people, but one with no meaning to the other travelers. Likewise, she interprets the entire experience in a different way than the others. The fey we are FAMILIAR with reflect human stories; that doesn't mean there aren't OTHER fey in Thelanis who are based around Goblin stories, or a dryad-equivalent based on how a Goblin sees a tree. </p><p></p><p>With that said, some fey concepts are relatively universal; everyone has to deal with Winter sometime. In that case, what you might have is a single spirit that's perceived in a different form by different beings; so a human sees a Ghaele of Winter as an elf-like human, while a Goblin might see a bugbear with ice-crusted fur. The Ghaele might interact with human and goblin in a different way, instinctively adopting the customs they expect from their tales. It's the same approach I've suggested for the Daelkyr... if you're familiar with Gaiman's Sandman comics, it's the same way beings of different races and cultures all see Dream through their own lens. </p><p></p><p>So as humans, we tend to see the human face of Thelanis... but there are many others. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely. This is essentially the basis of the plot of <em>The Fading Dream</em>, and one can argue that the Queen of Dusk does a similar thing throughout <em>The Dreaming Dark</em>. </p><p></p><p>There's also the chicken and egg question. Does the story appear in Thelanis because of its popularity in Eberron, or does the story BEGIN in Thelanis and leak out into the mortal world? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what I'm suggesting. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes; note that the elemental weird in the Dreaming Dark stories is actually serving the ends of the Queen of Dusk, and there's a distinct possibility that she actually IS the Queen of Dusk. There are elementals in Lamannia, but that doesn't mean ALL elementals are from Lamannia. Key point: The fiends of Fernia. A balor from Fernia isn't an elemental. It has an anthropomorphic frame of reference and embodies mortal fears of the wild, uncontrolled power of flame. It is an "elemental entity of fire" - but it is a completely different order of being from the pure elemental which gets bound to an airship. The elementals of Lamannia, on the other hand, fall into that latter camp. So in other words, a force of Elemental Evil would be more likely to come from Fernia or a similar plane than Lamannia; to a certain degree one could argue that the princes are somewhat redundant since Eberron places fiends in elemental planes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 6748663, member: 25818"] [b]Originally posted by Hellcow:[/b] All of them. I'll point out that in The Gates of Night, Xu'sasar encounters the ghost scorpion - an important piece of the stories of her people, but one with no meaning to the other travelers. Likewise, she interprets the entire experience in a different way than the others. The fey we are FAMILIAR with reflect human stories; that doesn't mean there aren't OTHER fey in Thelanis who are based around Goblin stories, or a dryad-equivalent based on how a Goblin sees a tree. With that said, some fey concepts are relatively universal; everyone has to deal with Winter sometime. In that case, what you might have is a single spirit that's perceived in a different form by different beings; so a human sees a Ghaele of Winter as an elf-like human, while a Goblin might see a bugbear with ice-crusted fur. The Ghaele might interact with human and goblin in a different way, instinctively adopting the customs they expect from their tales. It's the same approach I've suggested for the Daelkyr... if you're familiar with Gaiman's Sandman comics, it's the same way beings of different races and cultures all see Dream through their own lens. So as humans, we tend to see the human face of Thelanis... but there are many others. Absolutely. This is essentially the basis of the plot of [i]The Fading Dream[/i], and one can argue that the Queen of Dusk does a similar thing throughout [i]The Dreaming Dark[/i]. There's also the chicken and egg question. Does the story appear in Thelanis because of its popularity in Eberron, or does the story BEGIN in Thelanis and leak out into the mortal world? That's what I'm suggesting. Yes; note that the elemental weird in the Dreaming Dark stories is actually serving the ends of the Queen of Dusk, and there's a distinct possibility that she actually IS the Queen of Dusk. There are elementals in Lamannia, but that doesn't mean ALL elementals are from Lamannia. Key point: The fiends of Fernia. A balor from Fernia isn't an elemental. It has an anthropomorphic frame of reference and embodies mortal fears of the wild, uncontrolled power of flame. It is an "elemental entity of fire" - but it is a completely different order of being from the pure elemental which gets bound to an airship. The elementals of Lamannia, on the other hand, fall into that latter camp. So in other words, a force of Elemental Evil would be more likely to come from Fernia or a similar plane than Lamannia; to a certain degree one could argue that the princes are somewhat redundant since Eberron places fiends in elemental planes. [/QUOTE]
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