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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6748683" data-attributes="member: 25818"><p><strong>Originally posted by Hellcow:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dragons are mortal creatures of Eberron, and as such they dream. In a number of locations I've discussed eidolons - mortal entities such as titans or dragons that cast their spirits into Dal Quor in order to escape dissolution in Dolurrh, essentially becoming eternal dreams. A draconic eidolon appears in <em>The Gates of Night</em>, and elsewhere it's suggested that these eidolons could be used as Eberron's answer to vestiges. </p><p></p><p>However, I personally would never have a demon dream, at least not as humans do. Mortals are creatures of both soul and flesh, and the soul can drift while the flesh sleeps and go to Dal Quor. A demon (or angel, or quori) is a creature of incarnate soul. The two aren't separate pieces, and even if it COULD sleep, if it went to Dal Quor it would go there in its entirety; it wouldn't leave its body behind. </p><p></p><p>So yes, a draconic eidolon is an "eternal dream", touching on my point about lucid dreaming above - it's an artificial, conscious construct that has no place in the natural order of Dal Quor. As such, it's certainly a place where a mortal soul could be captured and held indefinitely... which is, of course, precisely what is going on in <em>The Gates of Night</em>. </p><p></p><p>But as always, these are just my thoughts on dreams and demons. I'm sure there's quite a few people who have played with the idea of the dreams of an Overlord; if I wanted to explore that, I might suggest that the Overlord's "dreams" are essentially an entirely separate demiplane - not tied to Dal Quor at all, but with the proper magic a mortal dreamer could be redirected into the slumbering Overlord's dream instead of going to Dal Quor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 6748683, member: 25818"] [b]Originally posted by Hellcow:[/b] Dragons are mortal creatures of Eberron, and as such they dream. In a number of locations I've discussed eidolons - mortal entities such as titans or dragons that cast their spirits into Dal Quor in order to escape dissolution in Dolurrh, essentially becoming eternal dreams. A draconic eidolon appears in [i]The Gates of Night[/i], and elsewhere it's suggested that these eidolons could be used as Eberron's answer to vestiges. However, I personally would never have a demon dream, at least not as humans do. Mortals are creatures of both soul and flesh, and the soul can drift while the flesh sleeps and go to Dal Quor. A demon (or angel, or quori) is a creature of incarnate soul. The two aren't separate pieces, and even if it COULD sleep, if it went to Dal Quor it would go there in its entirety; it wouldn't leave its body behind. So yes, a draconic eidolon is an "eternal dream", touching on my point about lucid dreaming above - it's an artificial, conscious construct that has no place in the natural order of Dal Quor. As such, it's certainly a place where a mortal soul could be captured and held indefinitely... which is, of course, precisely what is going on in [i]The Gates of Night[/i]. But as always, these are just my thoughts on dreams and demons. I'm sure there's quite a few people who have played with the idea of the dreams of an Overlord; if I wanted to explore that, I might suggest that the Overlord's "dreams" are essentially an entirely separate demiplane - not tied to Dal Quor at all, but with the proper magic a mortal dreamer could be redirected into the slumbering Overlord's dream instead of going to Dal Quor. [/QUOTE]
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