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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6748684" data-attributes="member: 25818"><p><strong>Originally posted by Syltorian:</strong></p><p></p><p>Thanks for clarifying the differences and similarities between Dal Quor and Thelanis.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Outsiders and Elementals don’t sleep by 3.5, if I recall correctly, but regular fey? Cadrel’s story would suggest that they do: the Eladrin dreamt before shunning Dal Quor out of shame, else they would not be able to tell the difference. What about other creatures native to other planes, but not outsider, elementals, or, in the case of Mabar, undead? What about aberrations? Does a Dolgrim dream?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. The inability of elves to dream also seemed to play a big role in the war against Dal Quor, as it allowed the giants to use their slaves as soldiers who could not be spied on as easily (which probably also led to considerable experimenting to replicate that ability), and in turn explained why the elves rose in power as the giants were weakened. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Doesn’t this actually make the specific lycanthropic threat which led to the Purge much more terrifying? Lycanthropes were around long before the 830s: if people were used to afflicted lycanthropes not spreading the curse, they would be all the more horrified if this rule suddenly stopped to be true. This would help hammer home the point that the horrors committed by the Purified were not mindless genocide, but the panic-reaction of well-meaning people who knew the odds were against them.</p><p></p><p>IIRC, there is a template in one of the Dragon Magazines which made natural lycanthropes create afflicted lycanthropes who could spread the curse. It was a Forgotten Realms based adventure, connected to the beast-god Malar, but I found it suited the Purge quite well. If used, this would mean that under certain special circumstances (say, tongue in cheek, dark rituals and the conjunction of six moons) , the Lycanthropic Threat might suddenly increase again. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That would explain why Shan Doresh, a caring hero of his people, changed his attitude so radically. Not that the natural strain of living in a world of horror for millennia as the result of cowardly betrayal would not be sufficient reason for his spite. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting. So the Quori War was (possibly) a revenge against Cul’sir? It would be interesting if something, say, a docent or a captured old-age Quori would see an eladrin/elf/fey character as an ally… or someone they blame, in turn, for having led them to utter destruction. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So it might be possible that an Overlord’s dreams might exert a more powerful draw on dreams above its prison? For instance, could sleepers in Thaliost slip into the dreams of Rak Thulkesh rather than into Dal Quor? That could be interesting, and potentially a way to calm his influence and finally give some rest to that hate-filled region. How would the Quori react, though, if an area the size of a city is suddenly cut off from them? And would a rajah be able to control his dreams, or be prey to them just like less powerful mortals are… I wonder whether a campaign can be made out of this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 6748684, member: 25818"] [b]Originally posted by Syltorian:[/b] Thanks for clarifying the differences and similarities between Dal Quor and Thelanis. Outsiders and Elementals don’t sleep by 3.5, if I recall correctly, but regular fey? Cadrel’s story would suggest that they do: the Eladrin dreamt before shunning Dal Quor out of shame, else they would not be able to tell the difference. What about other creatures native to other planes, but not outsider, elementals, or, in the case of Mabar, undead? What about aberrations? Does a Dolgrim dream? I agree. The inability of elves to dream also seemed to play a big role in the war against Dal Quor, as it allowed the giants to use their slaves as soldiers who could not be spied on as easily (which probably also led to considerable experimenting to replicate that ability), and in turn explained why the elves rose in power as the giants were weakened. Doesn’t this actually make the specific lycanthropic threat which led to the Purge much more terrifying? Lycanthropes were around long before the 830s: if people were used to afflicted lycanthropes not spreading the curse, they would be all the more horrified if this rule suddenly stopped to be true. This would help hammer home the point that the horrors committed by the Purified were not mindless genocide, but the panic-reaction of well-meaning people who knew the odds were against them. IIRC, there is a template in one of the Dragon Magazines which made natural lycanthropes create afflicted lycanthropes who could spread the curse. It was a Forgotten Realms based adventure, connected to the beast-god Malar, but I found it suited the Purge quite well. If used, this would mean that under certain special circumstances (say, tongue in cheek, dark rituals and the conjunction of six moons) , the Lycanthropic Threat might suddenly increase again. That would explain why Shan Doresh, a caring hero of his people, changed his attitude so radically. Not that the natural strain of living in a world of horror for millennia as the result of cowardly betrayal would not be sufficient reason for his spite. Interesting. So the Quori War was (possibly) a revenge against Cul’sir? It would be interesting if something, say, a docent or a captured old-age Quori would see an eladrin/elf/fey character as an ally… or someone they blame, in turn, for having led them to utter destruction. So it might be possible that an Overlord’s dreams might exert a more powerful draw on dreams above its prison? For instance, could sleepers in Thaliost slip into the dreams of Rak Thulkesh rather than into Dal Quor? That could be interesting, and potentially a way to calm his influence and finally give some rest to that hate-filled region. How would the Quori react, though, if an area the size of a city is suddenly cut off from them? And would a rajah be able to control his dreams, or be prey to them just like less powerful mortals are… I wonder whether a campaign can be made out of this. [/QUOTE]
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