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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 8985592" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>I agree, a pretty interesting list. The variety is astonishing.</p><p></p><p>The one thing I really like about this list is how forward the writer was about making it. 6 folks, voting up and down to cull a large list, with a focus on "model of representational balance..." The criteria helps give context to why the films were chosen. I would agree that I dont think <em>Black Panther</em> is the best Supers flick, but it had an enormous cultural impact and I think that has a lot to do with its stature in cinema; particularly for this list.</p><p></p><p>Often, these lists have no context. You might have "best 50 Sci-Fi movies" and for some reason <em>Wild Wild West</em> makes the list. You try and make sense in comparison of other films like <em>Dune </em>and are just left head scratching. It's like the details are left out to induce incendiary commentary. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite13" alt=":cautious:" title="Cautious :cautious:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cautious:" /></p><p></p><p>Personally, I like to rank genre movies against themselves. I think that is the best comparison you can make. However, I think great films can transcend genre and make best of X lists easily. Its all in the context of the list creation and individual descriptions of such films. I think genre films have guilt by association. For every great genre film there is a hundred B level drive in flicks in the pile. It can often dampen their glow.</p><p></p><p>Im actually ok with this. I haven't really liked a QT film in over 20 years. Typically, its a lot of schlock wrapped around one incredible scene. That does not a great film make. Also, I feel his subject matter is a bit objectionable.</p><p></p><p>I really enjoy Wes Anderson films, but have not spent enough time digesting them. Cant say I disagree on this one.</p><p></p><p>I already mentioned how important I think context is for these types of lists. <em>Brokeback Mountain </em>is on it for its representational value. I apreciate understanding why its on the list, and also why its bumped some other great 21st century films. The proof of these things in in the pudding. A good and explained criteria makes for a good and valuable list. Lack of context and too many cooks makes for a pretty bad list. Though, likely a good one for twitter fodder. I prefer to have conversations that have depth and understanding; which is why im not on twitter. YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="payn, post: 8985592, member: 90374"] I agree, a pretty interesting list. The variety is astonishing. The one thing I really like about this list is how forward the writer was about making it. 6 folks, voting up and down to cull a large list, with a focus on "model of representational balance..." The criteria helps give context to why the films were chosen. I would agree that I dont think [I]Black Panther[/I] is the best Supers flick, but it had an enormous cultural impact and I think that has a lot to do with its stature in cinema; particularly for this list. Often, these lists have no context. You might have "best 50 Sci-Fi movies" and for some reason [I]Wild Wild West[/I] makes the list. You try and make sense in comparison of other films like [I]Dune [/I]and are just left head scratching. It's like the details are left out to induce incendiary commentary. :cautious: Personally, I like to rank genre movies against themselves. I think that is the best comparison you can make. However, I think great films can transcend genre and make best of X lists easily. Its all in the context of the list creation and individual descriptions of such films. I think genre films have guilt by association. For every great genre film there is a hundred B level drive in flicks in the pile. It can often dampen their glow. Im actually ok with this. I haven't really liked a QT film in over 20 years. Typically, its a lot of schlock wrapped around one incredible scene. That does not a great film make. Also, I feel his subject matter is a bit objectionable. I really enjoy Wes Anderson films, but have not spent enough time digesting them. Cant say I disagree on this one. I already mentioned how important I think context is for these types of lists. [I]Brokeback Mountain [/I]is on it for its representational value. I apreciate understanding why its on the list, and also why its bumped some other great 21st century films. The proof of these things in in the pudding. A good and explained criteria makes for a good and valuable list. Lack of context and too many cooks makes for a pretty bad list. Though, likely a good one for twitter fodder. I prefer to have conversations that have depth and understanding; which is why im not on twitter. YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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