Transmute troll to elf! does he still drool?

[Sacred Cow]

Quick question for you guys.

Would a polymorphed monster use disguise, perform or bluff skill checks for impersonations? If I have a troll sorcerer (or whatever) polymorphed to look like an elf, what kind of skill check would he need to ACT like an elf?

I know that polymorph gives a bonus to disguise (he looks like an elf just fine), but I'm not sure that would change how he talks, eats, etc.

Thanks!

 

[Mr Fidgit]

i think that's the point of adding the bonus to a disguise check, that you do have to make that roll. on the other hand, if the party had never seen an elf, that roll wouldn't be necessary. if the party had an elf in it, the troll's probably not going to fool him.

(unless the troll was REALLY clever!

party member high elf: "But why are you drooling?"
troll: "'Cause I'm uh WILD elf!")

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I'd do it like this perform skill(synergy bonus from bluff and a good disguise) for physical actiosn, how to walk like an elf, gesture like an elf, and basically eveything else covered by people watching you from a distance. For interaction I'd use the bluff skill with sysnergy bonuses from perform and a good disguise.

 

[Darkness]

Now, where's Forrester when you need him...

 

[Xarlen]

Bluff.

I believe you keep all your Ex abilities in a poly'd form, so the Troll has regeneration.

THIS will freak out your players!

Fighter: I rolled a crit! I hit him.
DM: Okay, your axe sinks into his gut. He staggers, looks pissed, but keeps on going. Oh yeah; the flesh is starting to knit back together. And he just slaps you with a lightning bolt. 'Flex save?

 

[Wild Fandango]

I agree... Bluff would be the way to go... he may look like an elf, but a Troll isn't known for it's intellegence.. although I would give my players a bonus to the roll if they had ever come across an elf before..

Player: Are you an elf?
Troll: Yes, me elf, not big ugly Troll..
Player: right........

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

The PCs might not know he's a troll, but they'll think he's a stupid elf.

 

[AEtherfyre]

The disguise skill is for just this type of situation.

It doesn't just cover looks - it also covers mannerisms, habits, and cultural differences. That's why all those penalties for age categories, racial differences, and similar aren't eliminated by the use of Poly Other.

I can't see why any other skill would even be considered, myself.

 

[Piratecat]

So if you're right, I can't help but notice that shapechanging creatures like some dragons have a great bluff skill, but no disguise at all. None. Nada.

Boy, it makes them easier to detect!

Man walks oddly into tavern. Bartender looks up.

"What can I get you, Sir?"

"Fatted virgins, servant. And bow down before me or I will rip your heart out with my cl... me hand, and eat it before you."

<pause>

"Uh huh. You're not from around here, are you?"

 

[pontus]

In general, doesn't using the polymorph spell or illusions or the like grant you a +10 bonus to Disguise checks? Wouldn't that kind of suggest that the Disguise skill is the one that should be used here.