Two Handed Bludgeoning Reach weapon!?

[Razz]

Ok my friend was making a Swordsage and wanted to use a weapon that was simply an overly long quarterstaff, not a double weapon and obviously a two-handed weapon, but was a reach weapon.

However, out of all the weapons produced by WotC and Dragon Magazine in 3E, we could not find such a weapon. We were led to polearms with hammerlike bludgeons at the end, but that wasn't what he's looking for. He's looking for a quartersatff, pole-arm sized weapon with reach.

Anyone have an idea where we can find it or point us to a real life weapon similar to it?

 

[Legildur]

I think the longstaff MAY be what you are looking for. I can't recall whether it was in Oriental Adventures, Complete Warrior, or another WotC source book. And I also can't recall whether it provided reach, or simply more damage ala Bastard Sword or Dwarven Waraxe.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I think the longstaff MAY be what you are looking for. I can't recall whether it was in Oriental Adventures, Complete Warrior, or another WotC source book. And I also can't recall whether it provided reach, or simply more damage ala Bastard Sword or Dwarven Waraxe.

It's not one of those bizarre ones where it has reach if you're Power Attacking for a certain amount, is it?

Edit - ah, no. It makes you unflankable if you're using Combat Expertise or Fighting Defensively. Double weapon, but no reach. It's in Complete Adventurer.

I was thinking of the longaxe, which is a normal melee weapon unless you're using Power Attack for 3 or more, when it's a reach weapon. A mechanic like that might work for a really big staff as well, to represent swinging it from one end for extra reach?

-Hyp.

 

[Sejs]

Honestly, I'd just say fake it.

Greatclub, 5' and 10' reach, make it exotic - bam, done.

 

[Parlan]

If you need something to "ground" the idea. Or want a picture to visualize what it must look like:

There's a Japanese weapon called a tetsubo (lit. "iron staff"). In pictures/woodblock prints they're usually very long and often weilded by demons and stuff.

(Actually, there's a wikipedia page for it with a good picture, saying that demons wielded it b/c only they were strong enough)

Might make a good justification for an "exotic weapon" w/ a str prerequisite of 13 and slap on reach too.

 

[blargney the second]

Greatclub, 5' and 10' reach, make it exotic - bam, done.

That's more like a great-great-grandclub.

 

[VonRichthofen]

Honestly, I'd just say fake it.

Greatclub, 5' and 10' reach, make it exotic - bam, done.

A weapon with both 5' AND 10' range? That's pretty tough, don't you think so?

 

[Machiavelli]

A weapon with both 5' AND 10' range? That's pretty tough, don't you think so?

Meh, I don't think so. Of course, if something challenges a chain for threatened area dominance, I tend to like it. Chains are too prolific, because they are the only equipment that can reasonably do what they do. Wanna change that? I'm on board.

 

[Henrix]

There are of course a variety of long bludgeoning chain weapons in the far east, notably china and (to a lesser extent) japan.

Three-section-staff and meteor hammer comes to mind.


It really is the spiked chain that is an anomaly, not bludgeoning chain weapons.

 

[Henrix]

Greatclub, 5' and 10' reach, make it exotic - bam, done.

The Short Haft feat from PHBII is a better (and more believable) route.