two-handed weapons damage

[adam_antio]

sorry if this is a stupid question, and sorry if already exists a topic about it, but I'm a bit confused :s

do two-handed weapons deal 1 extra damage, like one-handed versatile weapons when wielded in two hands?

If the answer is no, I have another question: what differences there are between a greatsword and a longsword, since a longsword deals the same average damage of a greatsword when used with both hands*, except that the longsword costs half the price, it can be switched to one-handed any time you want, and it deals one less damage on a critical hit?

*longsword: 2-9 damage, 5.5 average
greatsword: 1-10 damage, 5.5 average

 

[Ryujin]

Two handed weapons don't do the additional +1 damage that versatile weapons do, when they are used two-handed. The big difference comes in when you do a critical.

 

[aurance]

And also for multi [w] powers.

 

[Dan'L]

Well, you don't deal the average damage, you deal the damage that comes up on the dice (plus whatever else.) The longsword will never be able to roll you that "10," even factoring in the +1 from wielding it two-handed. So, you give that up for a measure more versatility out of the longsword; it's up to you which you would prefer for your character and play style.

Tangential question:
Would a fighter with One-Handed Weapon training still get the +1 to hit when wielding versatile weapons with two hands?

-Dan'L

 

[adam_antio]

I think fighters do not get bonus for weapon talent if they have chosen 2h weapons and then use a 1h versatile weapon with both hands. The bonus regards the weapon's type, not how it's wielded.

Anyway, yes, I did not think about the multiple dice damage for powers, this is the big difference between great and long swords.

Thank you again ^L^

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

Also feats like Power Attack affect two-handed weapons but not weapons used in two hands.

 

[Stalker0]

As was mentioned, two handed weapons utilize high W powers better.

1d8+1 vs 1d10 is the same average, 3d8+1 (avg 14.5) vs 3d10 (16.5) is where you start to see more difference.

There are also a few magic weapons that really utilize two handed styles well.

 

[Alex319]

And don't forget certain powers that give you extra benefits with two-handed weapons, for example Reaping Strike, where you get more damage on a miss if the weapon is two-handed.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

Also feats like Power Attack affect two-handed weapons but not weapons used in two hands.

This is debatable i think.