UA Mystic Soul Knife + Bestial Claws

[Dane Parker]

Hello there,

Could someone explain why the base Soul Knife 1d8 damage would NOT stack with the Bestial Claws damage of 1d10/psi if the latter is performed with a successful hit (provided one has their Soul Knives otherwise active and has not dismissed them)? While the Soul Knife prohibits holding weapons, Bestial Claws clearly describes that, although delivering a melee weapon attack of 1d10/psi slashing, it is the result of the manifestation "of long claws". This is obviously not consistent with the holding of a weapon; but therefore should not negate the activation of the Soul Knives, does not forfeit the BA of the Mystic (which the rules state is the cost of dismissing the Soul Knives), and should, precisely because it remains a melee attack, add the Soul Knife's 1d8 psychic damage, no?

 

[OzDragon]

Hello there,

Could someone explain why the base Soul Knife 1d8 damage would NOT stack with the Bestial Claws damage of 1d10/psi if the latter is performed with a successful hit (provided one has their Soul Knives otherwise active and has not dismissed them)? While the Soul Knife prohibits holding weapons, Bestial Claws clearly describes that, although delivering a melee weapon attack of 1d10/psi slashing, it is the result of the manifestation "of long claws". This is obviously not consistent with the holding of a weapon; but therefore should not negate the activation of the Soul Knives, does not forfeit the BA of the Mystic (which the rules state is the cost of dismissing the Soul Knives), and should, precisely because it remains a melee attack, add the Soul Knife's 1d8 psychic damage, no?

1: Soul knife and Bestial Claws are from 2 different Orders. Bestial claws is a discipline from the Immortal Order.
2: Even if 1 was not true they are both manifestations so can not use both together. Just as you can not use a long sword and a dagger in the same hand.