[UPDATED] Issues With Official D&D 5E Spell Cards?

[UPDATED with info from GF9] Have you had any trouble getting the newly updated D&D 5th Edition spell cards from Gale Force 9? According to at least one customer, there's a little bit of a snafu. EN World member trystero ordered some cards requesting that the order be held until the new, updated cards were available, but was sent the old version instead. He was advised to contact WotC directly when he queried this. Trystero says that "I e-mailed them about my order, placed 8 February, and asked them to hold it until they could fulfill with the revised printings, and they wrote back to say that the updated decks were expected in "late March or early April", and that my order would ship then. But the next day, they sent me a copy of the original, uncorrected Arcane deck. I wrote back to say that it wasn't what I'd ordered, and asked how I could return it."

[UPDATED with info from GF9] Have you had any trouble getting the newly updated D&D 5th Edition spell cards from Gale Force 9? According to at least one customer, there's a little bit of a snafu. EN World member trystero ordered some cards requesting that the order be held until the new, updated cards were available, but was sent the old version instead. He was advised to contact WotC directly when he queried this. Trystero says that "I e-mailed them about my order, placed 8 February, and asked them to hold it until they could fulfill with the revised printings, and they wrote back to say that the updated decks were expected in "late March or early April", and that my order would ship then. But the next day, they sent me a copy of the original, uncorrected Arcane deck. I wrote back to say that it wasn't what I'd ordered, and asked how I could return it."

Gale Force 9 is the licensed producer of the spell cards and sells them through its online store, Flames of War. I'm not 100% clear where Battlefront fits in there - all the company addresses mention it, so I assume it's a parent company or somesuch. Perhaps somebody in the comments can clarify!

His email exchange with Battlefront went as follows:

Battlefront Customer Service: Unfortunately there is nothing in place to replace the original card sets. This was an error caused by Wizard of the Coast sending the wrong files to be printed. Should you need to seek compensation may I suggest contacting their customer service department?

Trystero: I'm very confused by this reply: I understand that the corrected printings aren't available yet, and at this point I just want to return the first-printing box which you shipped me (despite my having e-mailed twice to ask for my order to be held until new printings are available). How should I return this unwanted item?

Battlefront Customer Service: We are not accepting returns or exchanges for these cards. Please direct any further questions to Wizards of the Coast. This error is on their side.


Of course, mistakes happen, and that's OK. They can be resolved, and I'm sure trystero will get his issue fixed in no time. But it's curious that GF9 is directing people towards WotC on the matter rather than dealing with it themselves. I have no insight into any arrangements between the two companies, other than that GF9's products are official, licensed D&D products.

I think personally I'll hold off until the end of April or so before ordering any of the newly updated cards, just in case. I'm sure it'll sort itself out!

UPDATE -- John-Paul Brisigotti from Battlefront has posted a reply.

Let me first begin by apologising for this confusion. The comments from our customer service team are incorrect and despite initiative being used to try and give an answer, without management oversight this person has made this unclear when the goal is always to do the opposite. This is a GF9 product and the issue of the missing cards is ours to resolve and has nothing to do with WOTC.

When these decks were being finalised WOTC were in the final stages of completing almost two years of work on 5th Ed and trying to get the Players Handbook to the printers. We were also trying to get our decks completed and despite months of back and forth we still missed a single card out of the Arcane and Paladin deck from spells that made it into the book at the last round of edits. At the time we discussed how to try and get these missing cards out to the world but the practicality of doing so was unrealistic so knowing we had more specialist and archetype decks to release we thought that was our best chance to resolve this issue.

In April a new deck of Elemental spells that comes with the Princes of the Apocalypse module will be released and the following month some Archetype decks for the classes. In both sets we will add the two cards to the decks so that everybody who is missing them has multiple chances of getting the missing cards. This plan was to be announced as part of this Fridays web update so for more details visit www.gf9-dnd.com this weekend.

This entire issue is one of poor communication on our part and that is never a helpful way to resolve any problem. The GF9 name has stood for high quality D&D product for over five years now and given the overwhelmingly positive response we have had from you on the new 5th ed product the last thing we want to do is not resolve these issues. Thank you for your understanding.

John-Paul Brisigotti
CEO Battlefront Group

 

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JWO

First Post
This is like if you went to a supermarket and bought a cake made with bad eggs. You take it home, realise it's a horrible stinky cake and then complain to the supermarket who tell you to contact the egg wholesaler about the issue.

I wouldn't be happy in that situation, especially since the birthday party I'd planned had been ruined.
 

JeffB

Legend
Wtf?

After reading this, and seeing their ToD screen, methinks I'll not be ordering anything from these clowns.
 

Zaruthustran

The tingling means it’s working!
I think what's missing is the "smoking gun": the email exchange where:

1) the customer asks for the order to not ship until the product is revised with the new cards.
2) the company acknowledges and agrees to that request.

My outrage is withheld unless both conditions are met.

If those conditions are met, then yes: outrage at major customer service fail. Send the above email exchange to them, and explain that you'll dispute the charge with your credit card company because they did not deliver the product you both agreed upon. It's the same as if you ordered a toaster, and they sent you a wrench.

But again: the key is the company agreeing, in writing, to NOT send you the current cards, and to instead send you the revised cards. Note that this is different from "delay my order"--it's critical that the customer specified that he or she wanted the revised product and not just a shipping delay of the current product.

Customer blaming: What I don't understand is why the customer didn't just wait to place the order until after the revised product actually became available.
 

linkbox

First Post
This is BS. I say WotC fire them for this issue. how expensive would it be for them to print out the missing cards and provide them to people? If that cost is too nigh for you then dont be in business. I was legit going to buy all if the sets but now im just going to make my own its not worth it... I refuse to deal with a company with bad customer support/relations policies and GF9 is clearly one of them.
 


Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
I would send them an email that you do not consider your order to be fulfilled because they sent you the wrong product. Tell them you are cancelling your unfulfilled order and will dispute charges on your credit card.

Then it's up to them, not you having to go to WotC.
 

linkbox

First Post
Haha I did not mean fire the employees (I know that GF9 =/= EotC :), I meant more like... Revoke the DnD licence or at least make them own up to their mistakes with the threat of it. I also dont understand how WotC doesn't have a customer support clause in the licence or contract with GF9 or other third party vendors, it makes the D&D brand look bad and WotC/Hasbro with it too :(

Lastly, if it is WotC issue, then they shouldn't make us deal with . GF9's finger pointing at WotC just makes them look petty. I have never in my life seen a vendor blame the main company for anything (for obvious reasons) and its just crazy that they would do that as it makes everyone look bad and makes customers feel even worse :/
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Haha I did not mean fire the employees (I know that GF9 =/= EotC :), I meant more like... Revoke the DnD licence or at least make them own up to their mistakes with the threat of it.

I'd be surprised if WotC has the ability to unilaterally end their agreement. And almost certainly not because a customer got some bad service. Nobody would sign a license that could be summarily ended by a customer complaint.
 

timbannock

Hero
Supporter
I would send them an email that you do not consider your order to be fulfilled because they sent you the wrong product. Tell them you are cancelling your unfulfilled order and will dispute charges on your credit card.

Then it's up to them, not you having to go to WotC.

This is probably the best response to the issue at hand. *Especially* if you have any record of the exchange wherein you asked for the order to be held and they confirmed they could/would do so (even vaguely).
 

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