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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8539207" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>This is a purely personal interpretation. While the intent is not to make suggestion overpowered, what is "reasonable" is purely subject to the interpretation of a DM. But the point is that suggestion only suggests a course of action. So, you can order someone to lie, but it would still be a lie and therefore detected by zone of truth. But believing in a lie is not a course of action, so I would say it's simply not applicable, see below.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't agree with the way you are applying the rule, just because a spell is more general does not mean that a more specific spell is trumped every time. The suggestions themselves are very specific, for example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that would work, but if the target knows it to be a falsehood, it would be a lie and detected by zone of truth. The only case that would work for me would be if the target does not know the truth and is asked to answer in a specific way, because then it's not a lie, but it prevents a caster from using it on himself, since he knows the pronouncement to be a lie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8539207, member: 7032025"] This is a purely personal interpretation. While the intent is not to make suggestion overpowered, what is "reasonable" is purely subject to the interpretation of a DM. But the point is that suggestion only suggests a course of action. So, you can order someone to lie, but it would still be a lie and therefore detected by zone of truth. But believing in a lie is not a course of action, so I would say it's simply not applicable, see below. I don't agree with the way you are applying the rule, just because a spell is more general does not mean that a more specific spell is trumped every time. The suggestions themselves are very specific, for example. And that would work, but if the target knows it to be a falsehood, it would be a lie and detected by zone of truth. The only case that would work for me would be if the target does not know the truth and is asked to answer in a specific way, because then it's not a lie, but it prevents a caster from using it on himself, since he knows the pronouncement to be a lie. [/QUOTE]
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