Wand of Cu Light vs Wand of Vigor, Lesser

[Diirk]

Lesser Vigor caps at 15 hitpoints healed (over 90 seconds). Cure Light Wounds at the same caster level heals 6 - 13 (average 9.5), maximized 13, empowered 9 - 19 (average 14), maximized and empowered would average 19...

Now while a lesser vigor effectively heals slightly more on average than an empowered cure light, the penalty is fairly high: its only of real use in downtime situations, where its not really that big a deal.

 

[Storm Raven]

Frankly I'm surprised anyone can really argue *for* the Vigor spells at all.

Frankly, I'm surprised your math is so lousy. You completely screwed up your assessment of the nature of the two spells, and what a double empowered, maximized cure light wounds spell would be like (i.e. it would be much more powerful than a casting of lesser vigor). As it is, I don't see how anyone can take your argument seriously.

 

[CM]

Doesn't anyone use cure spells against undead these days? They still come in handy for that.

 

[HeavyG]

Druids can also use the Vigor line of spells, in addition to Clerics. In our campaign, we have made it a Druid-exclusive spell, as it feels more Druid-like.

I'm thinking of doing that myself.

 

[CapnZapp]

Does this seem unbalanced?

Everything about this is utterly broken, yes

 

[tomBitonti]

Everything about this is utterly broken, yes

Holy thread necromancy, Batman!
TomB

 

[TwoSix]

Stopping abuse of Wands of Lesser Vigor is one of the biggest challenges facing gaming today.