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<blockquote data-quote="Peter Gibbons" data-source="post: 2500673" data-attributes="member: 35541"><p>Warforged have a natural slam attack. The Monster Manual says: "If a creature has both a manufactured weapon and natural weapons, it <em>usually</em> uses its manufactured weapon as its primary attack...and uses its natural weapons as secondary attacks (-5 penalty on attack rolls, and 1/2 Strength bonus on damage rolls)."</p><p> </p><p>The FAQ elaborates on this, saying that: "Wielding a manufactured weapon doesn't prevent a creature from using all its natural weaponry, provided that the creature is using the full attack action <em>and the additional natural weapons are free</em>." It goes on to state that a lizardman, for example, would not get a claw attack with the hand being used to wield a manufactured weapon.</p><p> </p><p>Okay, clear enough so far. Now it gets tricky. The Monster Manual defines a slam attack as: "The creature batters opponents with <em>an appendage</em> dealing bludgeoning damage." My dictionary defines "appendage" as: "A part or organ, such as an arm, leg, tail, or fin, that is joined to the axis or trunk of a body."</p><p> </p><p>So let's say we have a warforged full attacking with a one-handed manufactured weapon, and nothing in his other hand. Clearly, he'd be able to make a secondary slam attack with that free hand.</p><p> </p><p>But what if he's full attacking with a one-handed weapon and carrying a shield in the other hand? Can he still use his legs, or some part of his arm other than his hand, to deliver a secondary slam attack?</p><p> </p><p>If you say no, would your answer be different if he were wielding a two-handed weapon instead of a sword-and-shield type combo?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peter Gibbons, post: 2500673, member: 35541"] Warforged have a natural slam attack. The Monster Manual says: "If a creature has both a manufactured weapon and natural weapons, it [i]usually[/i] uses its manufactured weapon as its primary attack...and uses its natural weapons as secondary attacks (-5 penalty on attack rolls, and 1/2 Strength bonus on damage rolls)." The FAQ elaborates on this, saying that: "Wielding a manufactured weapon doesn't prevent a creature from using all its natural weaponry, provided that the creature is using the full attack action [i]and the additional natural weapons are free[/i]." It goes on to state that a lizardman, for example, would not get a claw attack with the hand being used to wield a manufactured weapon. Okay, clear enough so far. Now it gets tricky. The Monster Manual defines a slam attack as: "The creature batters opponents with [i]an appendage[/i] dealing bludgeoning damage." My dictionary defines "appendage" as: "A part or organ, such as an arm, leg, tail, or fin, that is joined to the axis or trunk of a body." So let's say we have a warforged full attacking with a one-handed manufactured weapon, and nothing in his other hand. Clearly, he'd be able to make a secondary slam attack with that free hand. But what if he's full attacking with a one-handed weapon and carrying a shield in the other hand? Can he still use his legs, or some part of his arm other than his hand, to deliver a secondary slam attack? If you say no, would your answer be different if he were wielding a two-handed weapon instead of a sword-and-shield type combo? [/QUOTE]
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