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We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Fergurg

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Tell me how it is rigged? With any crime being reported there has to be evidence. It would take a lot to convict an innocent man or woman of abuse without any evidence of medical records showing injury to the alleged victim. Where are the witnesses, where are the 911 calls. I believe innocent people get convinced of crimes they didn't commit but those crimes did happen. Again in our country the burden of proving a crime is on the state.

Because it wasn't a criminal prosecution, but a family court. Because it doesn't have the authority to actually send people to jail, and because it technically was not a criminal court, the normal checks and balances given to the accused do not apply, just like traffic court. When I demanded to see the medical report in court, the judge explicitly told me, "It is not her job to prove that she was a victim."

And by state law, accusations of domestic violence are explicitly exempted from laws against perjury. It was not technically a criminal conviction, but the fact that an accusation was made forbids me from having a job having anything to do with law enforcement, including working for a company that has a contract with law enforcement. Yes, the law explicitly says that there do not even have to be charges filed - just a police report made that the accuser does not have to sign.
 

I'm A Banana

Potassium-Rich
Flawed logic. Attempt to go from specific to general.
There's no attempt to go from specific to general, actually. Quite the inverse! Generally, as you correctly pointed out, harassment happens. Cons, being a subset of "things that happen," also thus include harassment. Unless you're asserting that harassment happens generally but then doesn't happen at cons, the only other option left to you is "harassment happens at cons," which I infer that we agree on, despite your strange reluctance to actually declare that.

Not playing. Collect actual data? Grow up? Stay home? Deal with it, same as you would anywhere else? Realize that the world isn't your personal oyster? Don't hang with the wrong crowd? Certainly not an anti-harassment baby patrol.
None of those are things cons themselves can do. That's a question that's worth asking, here. So, to repeat it again, what can cons do to reduce the number of people that are harassed there?

Again, not an urgent question based on one article.
It is QUITE an urgent question for con-organizers and con-goers, actually! And it seems to be the only question where there is not yet broad agreement on policy, and where it can get really unpleasant for people on the extreme ends! If you care about gaming cons, it is really a very important question!
 

Elf Witch

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I believe that it is better for a harasser to get away with it than to punish an innocent person. It is always better to allow people to avoid justice than to create a system where you punish the innocent along with the guilty.

To put it another way, if it could be positively guaranteed that all harassment goes away forever at every convention that takes the approach that all accusations will be treated as absolute proof - and really, the only way to significantly end harassment would be to do this - then the situation would be worse because innocent people would get caught in the net.

You know that they are not just tossing people out based on one person's word. When a complaint is made they investigate it. If there are camera they look at them they talk to the person who has been accused.

I know people who run Worldcons and the people who have been tossed out were seen harassing other cons goers by witnesses who were neutral in the matter. Usually when someone accuses someone and there is not collaborating evidence they talk to the person accused and let them know it has been said and that if it is true they need to stop.

You are acting like there is a posse of angry women going around cons accusing innocent men of harassing them with the sole purpose of getting them kicked out.
 


Elf Witch

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Because it wasn't a criminal prosecution, but a family court. Because it doesn't have the authority to actually send people to jail, and because it technically was not a criminal court, the normal checks and balances given to the accused do not apply, just like traffic court. When I demanded to see the medical report in court, the judge explicitly told me, "It is not her job to prove that she was a victim."

And by state law, accusations of domestic violence are explicitly exempted from laws against perjury. It was not technically a criminal conviction, but the fact that an accusation was made forbids me from having a job having anything to do with law enforcement, including working for a company that has a contract with law enforcement. Yes, the law explicitly says that there do not even have to be charges filed - just a police report made that the accuser does not have to sign.

You are right family court is different it is to protect the victims of abuse from their abuser. And that is not true of every state in many states in family court lying under oath is perjury and can get you jail time. I have no doubt some ugly things go on in family court from people seeking revenge on another family member.

But this is not what we talking about we are talking about strangers harassing other people in public places.
 

Fergurg

Explorer
Under your requirements harassment of any kind, short of that which is recorded by video, would be dismissed as false.

Not necessarily. I would also accept neutral witnesses, or simply watching the accused more closely to see for myself what is going on. What I would not accept is "She said you're harassing her, so you have to go;" the standard that many are pushing for.
 

Fergurg

Explorer
You know that they are not just tossing people out based on one person's word. When a complaint is made they investigate it. If there are camera they look at them they talk to the person who has been accused.

I know people who run Worldcons and the people who have been tossed out were seen harassing other cons goers by witnesses who were neutral in the matter. Usually when someone accuses someone and there is not collaborating evidence they talk to the person accused and let them know it has been said and that if it is true they need to stop.

You are acting like there is a posse of angry women going around cons accusing innocent men of harassing them with the sole purpose of getting them kicked out.

I think there is a posse of angry women going around demanding that accusations be treated as evidence. Hell, a few months ago, Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn testified before the United Nations literally saying that people making accusations of harassment shouldn't have to prove them.
 

Fergurg

Explorer
You are right family court is different it is to protect the victims of abuse from their abuser. And that is not true of every state in many states in family court lying under oath is perjury and can get you jail time. I have no doubt some ugly things go on in family court from people seeking revenge on another family member.

But this is not what we talking about we are talking about strangers harassing other people in public places.

Actuall, we are talking about accusations of harassment and the desire for some people, like the person who wrote the blog post that this started with, to have accusations declared as proof.
 

MadAxe

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I think there is a posse of angry women going around demanding that accusations be treated as evidence. Hell, a few months ago, Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn testified before the United Nations literally saying that people making accusations of harassment shouldn't have to prove them.

Oh, Gamergater. Couldn't you have said that at the beginning? Farewell.
 

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