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We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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barasawa

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I like groups with all kinds of people in them.
I like having females at the game as well, though if you're a gamer, I don't care if you're male, female, green, vulcan, or whatever, just so long as you play.
When it comes to anyone raping in a game, that's just sick. Go take that stuff to your private fanfic or something, but please don't subject the group to that kind of garbage.
I'm sure somebody will whine it's some kind of double standard that you can kill the bad guys, but you can't rape.
Well suck it up buttercup. If you want to argue, wait until a couple of the people you really care about get raped, and then see how you feel about it in game.
I have no idea how this entire sexist b.s. got started, but it's seriously messing things up.
 

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I'm A Banana

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The assertion that any accusation will be treated as proven fact. Being kicked out of a convention and arrested because someone overhears me talking to someone else and mishears what I say. Being falsely accused by someone with an ax to grind and having no recourse, or even the ability to defend myself against such accusations.
Yeah, unfounded accusations suck. One of the unfounded accusations that suck a lot is the "You're lying!" accusation often flung at people who publicly mention their abuse. So you and many victims of harassment have that in common!

The question of what con staff does when an accusation is leveled is a big one, and one I'm sure is tough to get right. So what kind of response would you want a con to have when someone is accused of harassment? If you agree that harassment is a thing that happens at cons (which is apparently remarkably tough to get people to say!), then it is something that people will sometimes legitimately accuse others of doing, often with little evidence aside from their say-so. What do you think should happen then?

From the perspective of a Hypothetical Con Organizer, you know it's something that your staff is going to absolutely get wrong from time to time - no human being is perfect, and moments of harassment are often riddled with the he said/she said back-and-forth such that truth is impossible to determine. You're going to make mistakes. Do you make the mistake of allowing an accused harasser to walk away even though he's guilty? Do you make the mistake of tossing an innocent person out of your con? Is there some way to negotiate between that binary?

That's a hard question, that a multitude of opinions is going to be useful in addressing.

It's also a practical question, that people will have to answer.

It's not a political or ideological question at all.
 

AWizardInDallas

First Post
The existence of harassment is eminently relevant. That harassment exists and that it should not be tolerated is literally the point of the article linked to in the OP (regardless of what your feelings are on how she expressed that point or on one of the examples she listed), the point of the content of the OP, and of the thread title as well.

Your point of view, not mine.
 

Fergurg

Explorer
The existence of harassment is eminently relevant. That harassment exists and that it should not be tolerated is literally the point of the article linked to in the OP (regardless of what your feelings are on how she expressed that point or on one of the examples she listed), the point of the content of the OP, and of the thread title as well.

No, the literal point she was asserting was that every man who didn't agree with her that harassment is everpresent and requires drastic action is either a terrorist or a coward; further, she was asserting as fact the assertion that people disagreeing with her merely proves that the gaming community was filled with terrorists and harassers.
 

I'm A Banana

Potassium-Rich
AWizardInDallas said:
I disagree with the premise simply because it's not relevant and refuse to follow the "where there's smoke there's fire" mentality. Harassment might happen anywhere. So what. I prefer to stay focused on the issue at hand, not move on to broad generalizations where even less fact exists.
So we agree - harassment happens at cons and it is bad. Then, the actual issue at hand, what do you think should or could be done to minimize the harassment that happens at cons?

That's an urgent question that people are in need of good solutions to, and it's important to hear from a diverse array of people on what to do there. Nobody has good answers, it's not an easy solution.

If it's safe to assume that harassment happens at cons, what do we change to make that less true?
 

MadAxe

First Post
Well, I have been falsely accused of domestic violence. So it happened at least once.

Do you have proof? Can you give us all the details of this proof? Does it show without a doubt that someone was misleading about the alleged domestic violence, or was the charge simply dismissed? How is this case representative of ALL cases? Obviously, if you've been falsely accused, then all men accused must have been accused falsely, isn't that the logic?
 

MechaPilot

Explorer
No, the literal point she was asserting was that every man who didn't agree with her that harassment is everpresent and requires drastic action is either a terrorist or a coward; further, she was asserting as fact the assertion that people disagreeing with her merely proves that the gaming community was filled with terrorists and harassers.

I disagree with you about the point of the content linked to by the OP, but surely you could agree with what I said if I amended it to the following:

The existence of harassment is eminently relevant. That harassment exists and that it should not be tolerated is literally the point of the content of the OP, and of the thread title as well.
 


Fergurg

Explorer
Yeah, unfounded accusations suck. One of the unfounded accusations that suck a lot is the "You're lying!" accusation often flung at people who publicly mention their abuse. So you and many victims of harassment have that in common!

The burden of proof is - and should ALWAYS be - on the accuser, not the accused.

The question of what con staff does when an accusation is leveled is a big one, and one I'm sure is tough to get right. So what kind of response would you want a con to have when someone is accused of harassment? If you agree that harassment is a thing that happens at cons (which is apparently remarkably tough to get people to say!), then it is something that people will sometimes legitimately accuse others of doing, often with little evidence aside from their say-so. What do you think should happen then?

If there isn't enough proof to say that more likely than not harassment happened, nothing. Every time.

From the perspective of a Hypothetical Con Organizer, you know it's something that your staff is going to absolutely get wrong from time to time - no human being is perfect, and moments of harassment are often riddled with the he said/she said back-and-forth such that truth is impossible to determine. You're going to make mistakes. Do you make the mistake of allowing an accused harasser to walk away even though he's guilty? Do you make the mistake of tossing an innocent person out of your con? Is there some way to negotiate between that binary?

Frankly, no. That's why the "innocent until proven guilty" standard has been accepted by most societies today. Only in the minds who find "The accusation is the evidence" reasonable have a problem with that standard.
 

Arnwolf

First Post
I really don't want to play a politically correct game where I am constantly worrying about being inappropriate or offending someone. Politically correctness is for office workers and bureaucrats. I don't create or play in politically correct worlds. I like settings that simulate the values of the ancient or medieval world. And I really love Barbaric settings where slavery and worse is socially acceptable. Please I don't need people deeply offended playing with me. And I think me and my group enjoy playing to get away from women. And I have a feeling we are not a small part of the roleplaying population.

If you have women playing that need to have everything babied down for them then sure go ahead and do it. It's your game. But some really want to let loose and enjoy themselves and not worry about politically correctness with their friends. We have enough of that in public.
 

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