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We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Dannager

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Wow. I did not expect to wake up to find that the people intent on preventing anything being done about this had actually revealed themselves to be even more radicalized than before.

At this point, I'm comfortable stating that if I heard statements along these lines at any event I managed or organized, the people in question would be pre-emptively removed from the event. There's no way I could, in good conscience, allow them to attend knowing that they're likely to cause very real problems. Even if they didn't harass anyone themselves, I would not be comfortable allowing them to enable harassment, or lie to defend harassment that did take place.

And I very much doubt I'd be alone on that. I'm sure the people in question aren't so brave that they'd say these sort of things out loud, in front of other actual people, which is both sad and heartening. But I doubt they can keep it bottled up so much as to make it invisible, and it's my hope that as they inevitably reveal themselves they are pushed out of the gaming community. We have more than enough toxic elements without worrying about the misogynistic ones.

By the accounts I'm seeing in this thread, they're starting to realize that most gamers don't want them around.
 
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Sigtyr

Villager
What anyone can do it help is to be public and say that you are against harassment. Tell your friends it isn't cool. Report it when you see it happening.

Ok, I am against harassment. I'll tell my friends about it and if if I see anything I'll report it. Thank you for your time in answering my question.
 

MechaPilot

Explorer
Mr. Helton, what can I do about this problem that you have brought to attention in your article? What exactly can I do as a white male to help?

Some things that were mentioned in the other harassment thread include the following:

1) Don't do it yourself.

2) try to be more alert for harassment/assault that may be occurring around you.

3) when you see harassment/assault, do not tolerate it in your presence.

4) cooperate with security/police when you are asked about any harassment/assault you may have seen.


If you already do these things, then good on you for being an upstanding member of the gaming community.


An additional something that would have prevented my harassment experience is this:

If you're going to run a game where potentially traumatizing things like character rape can happen, make sure every player who joins knows what kind of game they are signing up for beforehand. Had I known that was a possibility in that game, I never would have agreed to play with that group, and that would have prevented my worst gaming experience, as well as the ensuing questioning of whether I should quit the hobby for good.
 


Sigtyr

Villager
Some things that were mentioned in the other harassment thread include the following:

1) Don't do it yourself.

2) try to be more alert for harassment/assault that may be occurring around you.

3) when you see harassment/assault, do not tolerate it in your presence.

4) cooperate with security/police when you are asked about any harassment/assault you may have seen.


If you already do these things, then good on you for being an upstanding member of the gaming community.


An additional something that would have prevented my harassment experience is this:

If you're going to run a game where potentially traumatizing things like character rape can happen, make sure every player who joins knows what kind of game they are signing up for beforehand. Had I known that was a possibility in that game, I never would have agreed to play with that group, and that would have prevented my worst gaming experience, as well as the ensuing questioning of whether I should quit the hobby for good.

Thank you MechaPilot for the info, I'll be sure to do my part in helping to stop harassment when I see it.
 

Dire Bare

Legend
I'm a middle aged white male who absolutely loves table top games and RPGs. But I only ever play with friends who I have introduced personally to the hobby, and as such they carry no social baggage or stigma scars unfortunately related to the hobby. I DM for a group of 5 people. 4 of them are women. One is a man. I have never had to baby anything down for any of them. They are all capable, intelligent, and entertaining roleplayers.

I personally would NEVER go to a gaming convention to play with other gamers, for no other reason than to avoid ever having the misfortune of spending my valuable personal time with someone who thinks like Arnwolf. I don't know what size part of the roleplaying population I represent, but I can only hope that it is one that is growing faster than the group responsible for giving gamers a bad name in general.

But after reading what I have seen here, after my second negative experience with online gaming groups ai am seriously considering the advice of some here. Just get out before it costs me any more money, any more health issues, any more mischaracterization of everythign I have said and believed because ONE guy took issue, and guys stick together.

I'm a dude in his mid-40's, and I rarely go to cons, and when I do, I rarely do gaming events for similar reasons as Jbear. I also rarely play in the available spaces at my local FLGS, and I'm very wary of joining gaming groups where I don't already know most of the folks involved. As a result, I don't play as often as others here in the ENWorld community, which is a bummer, but I've made my peace with it.

When finding safe environments to enjoy your hobby is WORK, and you've been burned time over time dealing with harassment and bad behavior, it's no wonder than many folks, mostly women, have abandoned our hobby despite loving RPGs.

But a sea-change in demographics and attitudes are happening right now, and there are safe environments out there for you to play. More and more women are joining the hobby, more and more minorities, more and more LGBQT, and more and more "progressive" white dudes (who are not cool with harassment of any kind). I strongly believe that most tabletop gamers are wonderful people who are not discriminatory or harassing, and don't put up with such behavior when they see it.

Of course, we still have the problems. The "boys-only club" mentality of some guys, the refusal to acknowledge the harassing behavior that all women in the hobby put up with as their "ticket" in. And these "sad puppy gamergaters", although they are a minority of us, are becoming louder and more shrill as they feel threatened by this change and the loss of their "boys only club" to a more egalitarian hobby. They are the dinosaurs, they are headed for extinction, and they know it.

If any individual leaves the hobby (or turtles up with a small group of trusted friends) because they have just become tired of combating the harassment in what is supposed to be a leisure activity, I totally understand. But I do hope you come to see that despite the bad actors, there are a lot of great people in this hobby who make a wonderful experience to game with. It might be worth sticking it out!

I wrestle with leaving the hobby versus working harder at finding some safe gaming spaces all the time. In Boise, where I live, there are currently three major gaming stores in the "Treasure Valley" (a fourth just opened, but I haven't visited yet). Of the two closest to me, one is staffed by very nice folks and most of the folks gaming there are cool too . . . . BUT, the few rude, bad actors that do frequent the play area are never asked to leave or curb their behavior, so consequently, I don't play there anymore and don't spend any money there. The other store close to me has (relatively) recently opened a new location with a huge, open, airy gaming space . . . and as of yet I have encountered no harassing or other rude, bad behavior. The staff seems proactive in creating a great store and a safe environment for gaming. So, I am starting to game there more often, and spend more money there. But I remain wary, as I've seen so much bad behavior in my time in this hobby, I have this fear the newer store isn't any better, I just haven't seen the dark underbelly yet.
 

Of course, we still have the problems. The "boys-only club" mentality of some guys, the refusal to acknowledge the harassing behavior that all women in the hobby put up with as their "ticket" in. And these "sad puppy gamergaters", although they are a minority of us, are becoming louder and more shrill as they feel threatened by this change and the loss of their "boys only club" to a more egalitarian hobby. They are the dinosaurs, they are headed for extinction, and they know it.

Like I said in my post, my first DM (back in 1979) was a woman. With a couple of exceptions over the 35+ years that I've been gaming, all of the groups that I have been a part of have had women (a lot of them were half or more). I am always amazed when I find all-male groups, and I wonder why anyone would want to segregate themselves?
 

Libramarian

Adventurer
What anyone can do it help is to be public and say that you are against harassment. Tell your friends it isn't cool. Report it when you see it happening.

Oh jeez. Is this an after school special?

Here I'll try.

Harassment is totally not cool man!

How many gropings did I prevent?

If you have no idea what to do and you're just writing to raise awareness, just say that.
 

Dannyalcatraz

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Staff member
Supporter
I don't know all the reasons why, but I didn't see a single female player* in a group I was in until @1992- 15 years after I got into the hobby. And it wasn't until shortly before 3.5Ed was supplanted by 4Ed that I DMed for any for an appreciable length of time.

That group was also the first I'd DMed for someone who was out. Damn if he wasn't one of the most fun guys at my table...ever.








* except for one girl who was trying it out because her boyfriend- my best bud- wanted her to. She only played a few sessions.
 


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