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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6343679" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>The fact is that two weapon fighting (in the real world) was one of the best types, but it was difficult to master. There's just so much that one can do with a weapon in each hand and too many styles with blows coming from various directions.</p><p></p><p>Then came weapon and shield which most trained militia could manage. But even that was too difficult for the common folk, so they ended up using various types of polearms when enlisted.</p><p></p><p>Single weapon, though, is good against unarmed peasants, but any sufficiently trained soldier using one of the previous two styles would typically kick that person's butt.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Granted, Hollywood has enhanced the swashbuckler image. But in most of those Hollywood genres (Robin Hood, Three Musketeers, Scarlet Pimpernel, various pirate movies), practically nobody was fighting with weapon and shield (maybe in Robin Hood, although some were fighting with two weapon like rapier and dagger in various films, or even cutlass and dagger).</p><p></p><p>Yes, modern fencing uses a single weapon. But historically, it was not a rapier. It was a larger heavier blade.</p><p></p><p>Single weapon just isn't much of a style and even Hollywood doesn't show Robin Hood going up against a trained two bladed opponent. He'd get his butt kicked (IIRC, Basil Rathbone did pull a second blade out on Error Flynn at the end of their fight, but he fought one bladed most of the time, or I might be confusing this with a different movie).</p><p></p><p></p><p>So yeah, in a game like 7th Sea RPG where the genre might call for it, I might agree with you. But in D&D, nah. To get the AC boost, one should use a shield (or if there is a rule for parrying with a second weapon). Getting the AC without the shield is not particularly fair to the player whose PC purchases one and lugs it around and does not get the defense if he does not have his shield ready.</p><p></p><p>A PC shouldn't get an AC boost, just for standing there with a weapon. That's what defending with the second hand should gain. IMO. You should talk to your DM about it and convince him to allow your PC to use a buckler as +2 AC and have your PC be a true swashbuckler (i.e. sword and buckler).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6343679, member: 2011"] The fact is that two weapon fighting (in the real world) was one of the best types, but it was difficult to master. There's just so much that one can do with a weapon in each hand and too many styles with blows coming from various directions. Then came weapon and shield which most trained militia could manage. But even that was too difficult for the common folk, so they ended up using various types of polearms when enlisted. Single weapon, though, is good against unarmed peasants, but any sufficiently trained soldier using one of the previous two styles would typically kick that person's butt. Granted, Hollywood has enhanced the swashbuckler image. But in most of those Hollywood genres (Robin Hood, Three Musketeers, Scarlet Pimpernel, various pirate movies), practically nobody was fighting with weapon and shield (maybe in Robin Hood, although some were fighting with two weapon like rapier and dagger in various films, or even cutlass and dagger). Yes, modern fencing uses a single weapon. But historically, it was not a rapier. It was a larger heavier blade. Single weapon just isn't much of a style and even Hollywood doesn't show Robin Hood going up against a trained two bladed opponent. He'd get his butt kicked (IIRC, Basil Rathbone did pull a second blade out on Error Flynn at the end of their fight, but he fought one bladed most of the time, or I might be confusing this with a different movie). So yeah, in a game like 7th Sea RPG where the genre might call for it, I might agree with you. But in D&D, nah. To get the AC boost, one should use a shield (or if there is a rule for parrying with a second weapon). Getting the AC without the shield is not particularly fair to the player whose PC purchases one and lugs it around and does not get the defense if he does not have his shield ready. A PC shouldn't get an AC boost, just for standing there with a weapon. That's what defending with the second hand should gain. IMO. You should talk to your DM about it and convince him to allow your PC to use a buckler as +2 AC and have your PC be a true swashbuckler (i.e. sword and buckler). [/QUOTE]
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