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<blockquote data-quote="RareBreed" data-source="post: 9101653" data-attributes="member: 6945590"><p>I'd like to see some statistics backing this up. I've seen articles (such as <a href="https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/equipment-and-technology/body-armor" target="_blank">this one</a>) that shows that body armor does save lives.</p><p></p><p>Now, there is a bit of semantics here. There is kevlar, and there are <a href="https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-tactical/ceramic-body-armor/" target="_blank">ceramic plate armors</a> (and steel too). Modern body <strong>plate</strong> armor is <a href="https://premierbodyarmor.com/blogs/pba/understanding-body-armor-ratings" target="_blank">rated IIA - IV</a> as determined by the NIJ. If you are referring to the difference between kevlar and (modern) plate armor, I'd probably agree with you.</p><p></p><p>Just a bit of trivia, but the new XM-5 6.8mm rifle and ammunition that the US Army will soon start using to replace the M-4 5.56mm was purposefully designed to defeat modern body armor. There's been a lot of criticism about this new hyper-velocity round because the rounds are heavier, and thus troops wont be able to carry as much ammunition and lay down suppressing fire, and also the extreme velocity only gives the barrels a 2000-2500 life expectancy (that's very small and will be very expensive to maintain).</p><p></p><p>I think it has less to do with Armor Class, and more to do with the angle of attack. Unless you get a near perpendicular angle to the armor, the projectile will get some kind of glancing effect. So instead of Armor Class, i think some kind of margin of success would simulate armor better.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise I pretty much agree with everything you said in your post...especially about alignment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RareBreed, post: 9101653, member: 6945590"] I'd like to see some statistics backing this up. I've seen articles (such as [URL='https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/equipment-and-technology/body-armor']this one[/URL]) that shows that body armor does save lives. Now, there is a bit of semantics here. There is kevlar, and there are [URL='https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-tactical/ceramic-body-armor/']ceramic plate armors[/URL] (and steel too). Modern body [B]plate[/B] armor is [URL='https://premierbodyarmor.com/blogs/pba/understanding-body-armor-ratings']rated IIA - IV[/URL] as determined by the NIJ. If you are referring to the difference between kevlar and (modern) plate armor, I'd probably agree with you. Just a bit of trivia, but the new XM-5 6.8mm rifle and ammunition that the US Army will soon start using to replace the M-4 5.56mm was purposefully designed to defeat modern body armor. There's been a lot of criticism about this new hyper-velocity round because the rounds are heavier, and thus troops wont be able to carry as much ammunition and lay down suppressing fire, and also the extreme velocity only gives the barrels a 2000-2500 life expectancy (that's very small and will be very expensive to maintain). I think it has less to do with Armor Class, and more to do with the angle of attack. Unless you get a near perpendicular angle to the armor, the projectile will get some kind of glancing effect. So instead of Armor Class, i think some kind of margin of success would simulate armor better. Otherwise I pretty much agree with everything you said in your post...especially about alignment. [/QUOTE]
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