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<blockquote data-quote="Joe Liker" data-source="post: 6395834" data-attributes="member: 6777505"><p>I'm not denying there are imperfections in the die. Please stop explaining that. We get it, really.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is, those imperfections are not generally pronounced enough to make a statistical difference <strong><em>in practice.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>It's a lot like the difference between theorycrafting and actually playing D&D. The dice seem unbalanced on paper, but when you roll them, they perform just fine.</p><p></p><p>The only way to prove that a die is biased is to roll that die a bunch of times. Apparently someone here did that with a bunch of Games Workshop dice, so now I'm willing to believe GW dice are crap. He didn't say which style of GW dice he tested, though, so if it was the one with skulls for pips, I have to wonder why he wasted his time. You can tell by looking at the absurd design that they're not going to work right.</p><p></p><p>As for the guy who rolled a single d20 from each company 10,000 times, that also proves nothing. You need to roll a lot of different dice from each company to be able to generalize that one company makes good dice and the other does not.</p><p></p><p>But I will say this: No matter how carefully you shave off that sprue, unless you're using a laser, your Game Science die is <em>at least</em> as cockeyed as the tiny, tiny imperfections found in the Chessex study, so there's some hypocrisy in action for ya.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joe Liker, post: 6395834, member: 6777505"] I'm not denying there are imperfections in the die. Please stop explaining that. We get it, really. What I'm saying is, those imperfections are not generally pronounced enough to make a statistical difference [B][I]in practice.[/I][/B] It's a lot like the difference between theorycrafting and actually playing D&D. The dice seem unbalanced on paper, but when you roll them, they perform just fine. The only way to prove that a die is biased is to roll that die a bunch of times. Apparently someone here did that with a bunch of Games Workshop dice, so now I'm willing to believe GW dice are crap. He didn't say which style of GW dice he tested, though, so if it was the one with skulls for pips, I have to wonder why he wasted his time. You can tell by looking at the absurd design that they're not going to work right. As for the guy who rolled a single d20 from each company 10,000 times, that also proves nothing. You need to roll a lot of different dice from each company to be able to generalize that one company makes good dice and the other does not. But I will say this: No matter how carefully you shave off that sprue, unless you're using a laser, your Game Science die is [I]at least[/I] as cockeyed as the tiny, tiny imperfections found in the Chessex study, so there's some hypocrisy in action for ya. [/QUOTE]
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