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What is the Sundering?

gyor

Legend
Its not a reboot because it does recon history, it just restores lost elements. Post Sundering people will remember the Spellplague, thier will still be the graves and many of scars, it won't be like it never happened, more like the healing has began, old wounds close, old burns stop burning, amputated limbs get reattached, while tumors get removed, but the scars remain.

Examples most spellplague lands might be extinguished by AO, but that doesn't mean all the spellscarred are healed or that all those who died are alive (exceptions for particular resurrected individuals).

Tymather may be returned to Abier, but a Tymather family of Dragonborn merchants that moved to Waterdeep aren't going to go with it, they'd be part of a lost Dragonborn dispora.

By the same token a restored Mulhorand and Uther isn't going be unscathed. Who knows what kind of Empire Mulhorand forged in Abier when surrounded by Godless empires. They may have a history of fighting primordials or dragons or who knows what and that will be part of thier history too.

Gods will be resurrected, but that doesn't mean that they don't remember dying or being exiled or demoted and that will leave its own scars and effect relationships. Don't expect Tyr and Helm to be BFFs anymore. If they bring back the Drow Gods, expect things,to be weird between Lolth's daughter and son having merged with each other in the past and then died as one.

See what I mean? Think of it this way, the spell is being cured, not negated, it happened, it shaped you, but the illness has been removed leaving only scars.
 

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Yora

Legend
Possibly. But I do get a very strong impression of "...and now let's pretend it never happened and never speak of it again".
 

Ahwe Yahzhe

First Post
Possibly. But I do get a very strong impression of "...and now let's pretend it never happened and never speak of it again".
You (correctly) got that impression because of the damage they did with the 100-year timeline jump. WotC knows it was a mistake to break the world continuity and pick up 100 years later with, "the Spellplague was really, really bad, guys, so the Forgotten Realms is now a Points-of-Light world." The only thing worse than continuing with this non-FR campaign world would be to run the "it never happened" retcon/reboot. So we get one more RSE moving forward in the timeline to put back the pieces which will include filling in the 100-year-long blanks, and THEN we can agree to never talk about that 100-year gap where apparently nothing much happened after the Day of Mourning- I mean, the Spellplague.

Especially when compared to the 100-year gap, the Spellplague itself wasn't that much worse than other RSEs. Sure, the entire southern half of Faerun gets blown up or submerged (Halruaa, The Great Rift, Chult, etc.) and only a short list of deities (mostly 4e Core Deities or their stand-ins) survive mass deicide by committee. But earth motes were vaguely interesting, Returned Abeir was great, and real-world remnants of ancient egypt/greece/babylon got replaced by Dragonbornland. LFR and a handful of Dragon articles also did a good job trying to fill in some blanks in more popular areas like Waterdeep, the North, and the Heartlands. Neverwinter was also a pretty good campaign product, given the mandated Points-of-Light storyline.

So I agree, it's not "retconning" when you move the timeline forward AND fill in some of the gaping 100-year holes in history. I hope this is what Ed Greenwood and company are working on right now. (I really hope Brian R. James is involved, too.)
 
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Viking Bastard

Adventurer
Among comic book fandom, this kind of semi-reboot (return to old status quo without retconning it away, but acting like it never happened when moving forward*) is known as a "softboot". The Realms are being softbooted.


* See Clone Saga, Emerald Twilight, etc.
 

gyor

Legend
I do have to give credit to all the people who compared it to Dragonlance's Saga period and who said just like that someone would have to come in and fix that mess and restore the settings essence.
 

Bow_Seat

First Post
I liked 4E FR. Not as the Forgotten Realms, but as a setting there were a lot of fun elements. I hope there will be some (small) support of Abeir once Ao de-abeir-izes Toril.

So don't call it a comeback, but the Realms are getting reset. Myrkuul, Bane and Bhaal going to interact with the Usurper Cyric? Mystra being reborn again to do the lambada with a newly cialis-ed Elminster? Netheril, Jhaamdath, Narfell and Raumathar jockeying for Empire with the Zhents and Thay? How far will the reset go?

My money says that Mystra dies, again. You know, track records and all that.
 


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