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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 6975699" data-attributes="member: 5100"><p>That could work and be an interesting world. It wouldn't be any of the above, though. I suppose I could get behind it as a solution to "we only support the Realms". The pickled ham flavor might get lost in the casserole. Of course, it would really vex the folks who actually like pickled ham, which would be it's own sort of fun.</p><p></p><p>That's very different from just scrubbing off the Greyhawk serial numbers and replacing them with Realms bits. There <u>is</u> a flavor difference, even if it's the difference between chocolate chunk and fudge ripple. I actually like that comparison because, while I'm sure some folks can't hardly tell the difference, I actually don't care for fudge -- something about the texture kinda turns me off -- but I love chocolate chunks. Even better, just give me vanilla and let me add my own toppings.</p><p></p><p>Applying that to D&D, the Realms or fudge ripple, Greyhawk is chocolate chunk, and home brew is vanilla with toppings. My first choice would be vanilla to the point of blandness (in setting/canvas, not story), but Greyhawk doesn't suck. Something about the Realms has always bugged me. </p><p></p><p>When I picked up the gray box, my reaction was, "Well, this is cheesy and kinda lame. It'll see one print run and be done." Clearly, I was wrong about the public taste. Still, the success of the Realms has been like watching my uncle put ketchup (to switch up the food analogy, again) on everything: eggs, meatloaf, beef roast, baked potatoes, etc. At a certain point, it's just gross to the point where the smell of ketchup evokes such negative connotations that I can't hardly stand to see someone use it for fries or a hamburger. I'm pretty much at the same point with the Realms. Academically, it really doesn't matter whether the 15-year-later sequel to a 20-year-later sequel of the original <u>Temple of Elemental Evil</u> is set in Greyhawk or the Realms. In either place, it's way away from anything of any note, so what the heck? On the other hand, there's pretty good history with the Temple being based near Hommlet and Nulb, so what benefit does the change bring? In the end, it's like using ketchup instead of marinara on spaghetti -- throw in the right spices, and you could probably make it taste fine. Conceptually, though, it's kinda gross. Also, please just stop putting ketchup on everything.</p><p></p><p>Going back to your original idea of just stirring it all together, that would work for me. But, only if you really put it in a blender. Keep the names and vague context (maybe), but go ahead and have the Red Wizards be obsessed with the pure power of elemental chaos instead of fiends and Thay is an icy, northern island. It doesn't <u>have</u> to be different, but established canon either means something or it doesn't. The Lords of Waterdeep as a contemporary ruling body (or even a ruling body, maybe they're the leaders of the Zhentarim -- or competition) are as fluid as the Temple of Elemental Evil being on Greyhawk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 6975699, member: 5100"] That could work and be an interesting world. It wouldn't be any of the above, though. I suppose I could get behind it as a solution to "we only support the Realms". The pickled ham flavor might get lost in the casserole. Of course, it would really vex the folks who actually like pickled ham, which would be it's own sort of fun. That's very different from just scrubbing off the Greyhawk serial numbers and replacing them with Realms bits. There [U]is[/U] a flavor difference, even if it's the difference between chocolate chunk and fudge ripple. I actually like that comparison because, while I'm sure some folks can't hardly tell the difference, I actually don't care for fudge -- something about the texture kinda turns me off -- but I love chocolate chunks. Even better, just give me vanilla and let me add my own toppings. Applying that to D&D, the Realms or fudge ripple, Greyhawk is chocolate chunk, and home brew is vanilla with toppings. My first choice would be vanilla to the point of blandness (in setting/canvas, not story), but Greyhawk doesn't suck. Something about the Realms has always bugged me. When I picked up the gray box, my reaction was, "Well, this is cheesy and kinda lame. It'll see one print run and be done." Clearly, I was wrong about the public taste. Still, the success of the Realms has been like watching my uncle put ketchup (to switch up the food analogy, again) on everything: eggs, meatloaf, beef roast, baked potatoes, etc. At a certain point, it's just gross to the point where the smell of ketchup evokes such negative connotations that I can't hardly stand to see someone use it for fries or a hamburger. I'm pretty much at the same point with the Realms. Academically, it really doesn't matter whether the 15-year-later sequel to a 20-year-later sequel of the original [U]Temple of Elemental Evil[/U] is set in Greyhawk or the Realms. In either place, it's way away from anything of any note, so what the heck? On the other hand, there's pretty good history with the Temple being based near Hommlet and Nulb, so what benefit does the change bring? In the end, it's like using ketchup instead of marinara on spaghetti -- throw in the right spices, and you could probably make it taste fine. Conceptually, though, it's kinda gross. Also, please just stop putting ketchup on everything. Going back to your original idea of just stirring it all together, that would work for me. But, only if you really put it in a blender. Keep the names and vague context (maybe), but go ahead and have the Red Wizards be obsessed with the pure power of elemental chaos instead of fiends and Thay is an icy, northern island. It doesn't [U]have[/U] to be different, but established canon either means something or it doesn't. The Lords of Waterdeep as a contemporary ruling body (or even a ruling body, maybe they're the leaders of the Zhentarim -- or competition) are as fluid as the Temple of Elemental Evil being on Greyhawk. [/QUOTE]
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