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<blockquote data-quote="Roseweave" data-source="post: 6940468" data-attributes="member: 6806914"><p>I don't see anyone calling for censorship here. This always comes up with anti-social justice arguments. Cultural practices can be outlawed or made "undesirable" by way of employment discrimination etc., Muslim women can be afraid to wear Abayas & Hijab, trans people can be afraid to walk down the street without being arrested for intent to prostitute, but yet people who claim to care about censorship and freedom of expression (or see how appropriation ties into these issues) never really comments on these. Of course they'll get offended at that notion saying "Of course I care about them!" but the fact is I see 100x amount the focus from self described Free Speech advocates focusing on the right to be hateful/insensitive. And ironically, it's sort of taboo to criticise this attitude because "Free Speech". (In SJ circles we often refer to it as "Freeze Speech" to distinct it from actual freedom of expression, or legal Freedom of Speech). </p><p></p><p>When people criticise a piece of media or being insensitive or hurtful and it gets changed, the gamergate sorts of the world are very quickly to scream censorship. What this is saying is that - while these people claim not to hate minorities, women, trans people etc.(and may even be from those groups), they don't actually want bigoted or insensitive attitudes to be challenged, or for things to get measurably better in terms of representation of other peoples and cultures. It's an aggressive defence of status quo(though particularly the status quo of the 80s or so). In this thread one person has outright said cultural appropriation does not exist and does not open themselves to be challenged on it, and this is creating a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Roseweave, post: 6940468, member: 6806914"] I don't see anyone calling for censorship here. This always comes up with anti-social justice arguments. Cultural practices can be outlawed or made "undesirable" by way of employment discrimination etc., Muslim women can be afraid to wear Abayas & Hijab, trans people can be afraid to walk down the street without being arrested for intent to prostitute, but yet people who claim to care about censorship and freedom of expression (or see how appropriation ties into these issues) never really comments on these. Of course they'll get offended at that notion saying "Of course I care about them!" but the fact is I see 100x amount the focus from self described Free Speech advocates focusing on the right to be hateful/insensitive. And ironically, it's sort of taboo to criticise this attitude because "Free Speech". (In SJ circles we often refer to it as "Freeze Speech" to distinct it from actual freedom of expression, or legal Freedom of Speech). When people criticise a piece of media or being insensitive or hurtful and it gets changed, the gamergate sorts of the world are very quickly to scream censorship. What this is saying is that - while these people claim not to hate minorities, women, trans people etc.(and may even be from those groups), they don't actually want bigoted or insensitive attitudes to be challenged, or for things to get measurably better in terms of representation of other peoples and cultures. It's an aggressive defence of status quo(though particularly the status quo of the 80s or so). In this thread one person has outright said cultural appropriation does not exist and does not open themselves to be challenged on it, and this is creating a problem. [/QUOTE]
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