Where is the National Guard?

[Morlock]

The feds tiptoe around this kind of thing because of the massive bungling at Waco and Ruby Ridge. Since then, they've realized they get better results by not escalating with people who are in armed groups, but not hurting anyone, damaging property, etc.

 

[Ryujin]

As much as I think that there is a lot of critique with the power of goverment, legislations, the justice system, etc, I have issues when the law isn't applied to everyone equally. Inaction from the government is not a good thing. These extremists are getting away with stuff that no other group would get away with. They are setting precedent and showing the biases of law enforcement. Althought exposing biases ain't necessarely bad, it isn't their intention.

They are 'getting away with' the sort of behaviour that our own Canadian indigenous peoples get away with, every few years, in areas like Tyendinaga, Kanesatake, and Ohsweken. Different issues and different incidents demand a different response. Remember the Kanestake incident? No one wants more of that sort of thing.

 

[MechaPilot]

If whites had murder rates as high as blacks. . .

If whites had poverty rates as high as blacks, and were as politically disinfranchised as blacks, and were intentionally given poor police response time like blacks then whites would be in a situation where crime would have a greater opportunity to flourish. And don't forget that the law does little or nothing to protect people who testify, which makes people more likely to fall into that don't "snitch" crap that just helps create a garden for crime.

 

[Eltab]

Where is the National Guard?

Is there some reason to believe this group is a clear and present danger to the general public?

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

This is a federal issue; the National Guard works for the states unless federalized. You won't see the Guard called out over this (nor the Army, unless an armed insurrection is declared, due to the Posse Commitatus Act).

There are federal law enforcement agencies that handle this sort of thing ... and they may be called in at some point.

In most other cases where the Guard has been called out -- Ferguson, the LA riots, Hurricane Katrina -- it was a state governor making that call.

 

[Ovinomancer]

As much as I think that there is a lot of critique with the power of goverment, legislations, the justice system, etc, I have issues when the law isn't applied to everyone equally. Inaction from the government is not a good thing. These extremists are getting away with stuff that no other group would get away with. They are setting precedent and showing the biases of law enforcement. Althought exposing biases ain't necessarely bad, it isn't their intention.

Yeah, occupy everything didn't ever happen.

 

[Mallus]

I recall Occupy having fewer armed people willing to level weapons at federal agents...

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

You have to love how these guys are called "protesters" and "activist," rather than what they actually are - terrorist.

Washington Post
A group of armed anti-government activists...

Fox "News"
Armed protesters occupying a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon...

Had these guys been black, or appeared to be Muslims, they'd be called terrorist even before they were interviewed and allowed to talk. Hell, they'd probably have police rushing in ready to start shooting them up.

 

[ccs]

You have to love how these guys are called "protesters" and "activist," rather than what they actually are - terrorist.





Had these guys been black, or appeared to be Muslims, they'd be called terrorist even before they were interviewed and allowed to talk. Hell, they'd probably have police rushing in ready to start shooting them up.

Don't worry, as soon as something really happens it'll be discovered that they have Islamic ties.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Don't worry, as soon as something really happens it'll be discovered that they have Islamic ties.

No, brosef. These guys are White. They could shoot up the cops and kill half the police force in that town, and they'd still be "protesters" and "activists."
The only way the word "terrorist" would be used is if some non-white guy walks by, and he just happens to be carrying something that could be construed as a weapon. Then the headline would read "Armed protesters defend themselves from Islamic terrorist."