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Why I feel so abysmally let down by the "Ravnica" news...
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<blockquote data-quote="Cyber-Dave" data-source="post: 7469472" data-attributes="member: 82132"><p>@<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=996" target="_blank">Tony Vargas</a></u></strong></em></p><p></p><p>Cyberpunk is, in many ways, cynical or dystopian. It is also, in many ways, utopian. Arguments about whether it is utopian or dystopian are standard critical fair. Quite frankly, in my opinion, cyberpunk is innately ambiguous more than anything else, at least when you examine any given set of texts synchronically. I believe that a diachronic analysis is required in order to make anything even resembling a clear interpretation of the genre as a whole or a specific set of texts from the genre tenable. All that, however, is beside the point. The point is: a romantic text can be hopeful, cynical, or both. Romanticism has virtually nothing to do with how hopeful or cynical a text is.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, your claim that cyberpunk and steampunk are innately different on the level of spirit is not accurate either. Steampunk largely owes its existence to William Gibson and Bruce Sterling's The Difference Engine. That text is considered to be the foundational steampunk text. The text is, in many ways, a cyberpunk novel transposed to a Victorian era. Hell, it is written by the Movement's two most famous authors! ("The Movement"--capital M--is a label used to describe cyberpunk before Bruce Bethke's short story title got appropriated by Gardner Dozois and used to re-brand the genre of writing created by its first-wave authors.) At its heart, that is what steampunk is. It is a sub-genre of cyberpunk which takes the basic precepts of the genre and transposes them to an earlier, Victorian era.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyber-Dave, post: 7469472, member: 82132"] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=996"]Tony Vargas[/URL][/U][/B][/I] Cyberpunk is, in many ways, cynical or dystopian. It is also, in many ways, utopian. Arguments about whether it is utopian or dystopian are standard critical fair. Quite frankly, in my opinion, cyberpunk is innately ambiguous more than anything else, at least when you examine any given set of texts synchronically. I believe that a diachronic analysis is required in order to make anything even resembling a clear interpretation of the genre as a whole or a specific set of texts from the genre tenable. All that, however, is beside the point. The point is: a romantic text can be hopeful, cynical, or both. Romanticism has virtually nothing to do with how hopeful or cynical a text is. Likewise, your claim that cyberpunk and steampunk are innately different on the level of spirit is not accurate either. Steampunk largely owes its existence to William Gibson and Bruce Sterling's The Difference Engine. That text is considered to be the foundational steampunk text. The text is, in many ways, a cyberpunk novel transposed to a Victorian era. Hell, it is written by the Movement's two most famous authors! ("The Movement"--capital M--is a label used to describe cyberpunk before Bruce Bethke's short story title got appropriated by Gardner Dozois and used to re-brand the genre of writing created by its first-wave authors.) At its heart, that is what steampunk is. It is a sub-genre of cyberpunk which takes the basic precepts of the genre and transposes them to an earlier, Victorian era. [/QUOTE]
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