Wizards of the Coasts are overcharging us and "TSR"

[Virgil Sagecaster]

Thanks for the rely Vartan! To my understandering, the "fluff vs church" arguement is really speaking about the "roleplaying ideas vs rules". Like you mentioned before, I love playing the 3rdE D&D. But I just believe that 2ndE gaming material has a lot more options than 3rdE (2ndE Kits vs Prestige Classes), at lower level.

 

[Virgil Sagecaster]

Thanks for the rely Vartan! To my understandering, the "fluff vs church" arguement is really speaking about the "roleplaying ideas vs rules". Like you mentioned before, I love playing the 3rdE D&D. But I just believe that 2ndE gaming material has a lot more options than 3rdE (2ndE Kits vs Prestige Classes), at lower level.

 

[Greylock]

Ohmigawd! I bought two Green Ronin products today. One was older, and it cost me 16.95. The other, newer, book cost 19.95! Ohmigawd!

Fact is, costs and base retails change. The older stuff is in inventory, paid for, and mostly out-of-print. The old retail stands. Newer stuff usually costs more because it cost the manufacturer more.

That said...

Hear this, Alsih20. My fighter takes it in the next session, I'm ready to stat up an Aasimar Avatar! Be warned...

 

[Virgil Sagecaster]

Good point Greylock! I remeber paying $20.00 for a 3rdE PHB, And THEN paying a whopping $29.95 for the "3.5" version of it. I like the 3.5 version, due to the fact that the gave the Ranger and Monk classes more presentable to play. As in the the 3rdE, They swap "favorability for rules (Prestige classes vs Kits and Specialty Priests). I just like the old 2ndE feel of flavortism then the 3.5rdE's feel of rules.

 

[Kelleris]

As far as the original 3e books go, that's not a very good comparison. They were deliberately sold at a very thin margin to encourage the original switch to 3e. A full-color 300-page hardcover for $20 is being sold almost at cost.

 

[El_Gringo]

This thread reminds me of an old poster. His name started with a B, ended with an O, and had an ugabo in the middle.

 

[Greylock]

Yep, the old bait-and-switch, hmmm, Virgil?

Ronin got me hard today. I've been digging their books because they seem to value "fluff" over "crunch". Well, these two books I got today have everything I expected and hoped for in fluff, but the bastids threw in crunch as well!

I feel cheated.

BTW, your complaint regarding WotC is baseless and ill-conceived. Don't view my sarcasm as a compliment to your argument.

HTH

 

[Krieg]

While TSR was only concern was to provide gaming material fo us.

I'm sorry, are you referring to the same TSR that was run by gamer "friendly" Lorraine Williams?!?!

 

[Virgil Sagecaster]

Alright, I have been acused of bait-switching (Geylock) and buring my two-handed ax of conspiricey in the the backs of the WoTC (Francisca).

First and farmost, what is the defintion of the "church vs fluff" debate?

.....and what in the Nine-Hells is "bait-switching", Greylock?

 

[Virgil Sagecaster]

BTW, your complaint regarding WotC is baseless and ill-conceived. Don't view my sarcasm as a compliment to your argument.

Greylock, I never complainted about the WoTC. I just stated a comparison of the 2ndE and 3.5rdE products.