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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6993441" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>There are feats in 5e. And fighters get the most. There's your answer</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Objectively untrue. For one, a lot of it depends on how many combat rounds you have in between short rests <em>and</em> the BM having the appropriate maneuvers he or she can use to add the damage in the first place. Secondly, damage isn't the only thing it can do. I feel like I keep saying this til I'm blue in the face, but there are other options besides "I attack". Improvised options exist both in combat and out of combat, and the champion gets an extra bonus to all of those checks that fall under remarkable athlete that no one else has. That means, objectively, the champion is better at them than others. I understand this is a playstyle issue and some tables don't play with the players declaring improvised actions or out of the box actions, so they assume that it's not done. But you (general you, not you specifically) need to understand there <em>are</em> lots of table that do. Mine for instance. Maybe it's because I'm an AD&D guy where all improvised actions were simple ability checks, but we have situations like that happen all of the time in our games, and the champion gets an extra bonus to those via remarkable athlete that other classes don't. So just because you don't use them, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.</p><p></p><p>That's a position I see implied way too often in every single one of these threads about how classes are boring. And it needs to stop.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6993441, member: 15700"] There are feats in 5e. And fighters get the most. There's your answer Objectively untrue. For one, a lot of it depends on how many combat rounds you have in between short rests [i]and[/i] the BM having the appropriate maneuvers he or she can use to add the damage in the first place. Secondly, damage isn't the only thing it can do. I feel like I keep saying this til I'm blue in the face, but there are other options besides "I attack". Improvised options exist both in combat and out of combat, and the champion gets an extra bonus to all of those checks that fall under remarkable athlete that no one else has. That means, objectively, the champion is better at them than others. I understand this is a playstyle issue and some tables don't play with the players declaring improvised actions or out of the box actions, so they assume that it's not done. But you (general you, not you specifically) need to understand there [i]are[/i] lots of table that do. Mine for instance. Maybe it's because I'm an AD&D guy where all improvised actions were simple ability checks, but we have situations like that happen all of the time in our games, and the champion gets an extra bonus to those via remarkable athlete that other classes don't. So just because you don't use them, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's a position I see implied way too often in every single one of these threads about how classes are boring. And it needs to stop. [/QUOTE]
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