*finishes reading the rest of the thread*
For the love of all that is holy.
Women's sports in things like hockey and boxing and soccer all the other stuff is JUST STARTING. It's just getting underway. And why? It's not because we don't like it - it's because we're told NOT to like it, from the get go. And it still isn't as valued, isn't as interesting, "because it's only girls."
Talk to me about gender preferences once society has opened up the field and accepted, with open arms, women playing in whatever sport they want as soon as they are toddling around, where they get equal access and equipment and encouragement and aren't made so damn self conscious about not being male.
Then we'll see.
It's the exact same damn excuse they used to keep women out of the medical proffession (and practically every other one) for decades to centuries: well, women must not like it, because they didn't do it! Well, fer crying out loud, you wouldn't damn well let us!
BMF: Psychology may say one thing, but nine times out of ten, that's the pyschology of the Western civilization. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face (or blue in the fingers): There is a wealth of cultural differences on this planet that would BLOW YOUR MIND about how women and men are 'expected' to behave. As much as there are similaries, there are as many differences under the sun, more than you can imagine. So much of how we think and how we behave all comes down to what images and what expectations we are given in our formative years.
When we have a chance to give everyone the same chance to demonstrate what they have an interest in, then we can start ascribing gender based preferences. All we can do now is regurgitate the answers we've already told them since they were born. It's just the same thing reflecting back on itself, you know? You can't just raise someone one way all their life, then study them, and then decide that's how they must be innately. That makes absolutely no sense.
What's REALLY funny about all of this, is that we're talking about the girls who already do play as though they are the deviants, weirdos and folks who just aren't 'regular' girls. As if 'regular girls' were this elusive thing to quest for. But don't you realize that the same thing could be said of male gamers? You are all part of a small, small TEENY minority yourselves, certainly not 'regular' guys, right? Because you like to play such violent games? The funny thing is, you probably don't think you're all that different, yet you happily characterize us women, to the point almost of alienation, about how DIFFERENT we are from ordinary women.
That's right...keep making us the enemy. Don't appreciate us for what we are. GAMERS! Who like the stuff you like! But no, make a point to just pretend like we're some thorny conundrum that you haven't figured out yet and focus entirely on women who have no interest in this hobby, like the other millions of men who all think we're (male and female alike) the biggest bunch of dweebs on the planet.
Feh. Gah. Arg.
For the love of all that is holy.
Women's sports in things like hockey and boxing and soccer all the other stuff is JUST STARTING. It's just getting underway. And why? It's not because we don't like it - it's because we're told NOT to like it, from the get go. And it still isn't as valued, isn't as interesting, "because it's only girls."
Talk to me about gender preferences once society has opened up the field and accepted, with open arms, women playing in whatever sport they want as soon as they are toddling around, where they get equal access and equipment and encouragement and aren't made so damn self conscious about not being male.
Then we'll see.
It's the exact same damn excuse they used to keep women out of the medical proffession (and practically every other one) for decades to centuries: well, women must not like it, because they didn't do it! Well, fer crying out loud, you wouldn't damn well let us!
BMF: Psychology may say one thing, but nine times out of ten, that's the pyschology of the Western civilization. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face (or blue in the fingers): There is a wealth of cultural differences on this planet that would BLOW YOUR MIND about how women and men are 'expected' to behave. As much as there are similaries, there are as many differences under the sun, more than you can imagine. So much of how we think and how we behave all comes down to what images and what expectations we are given in our formative years.
When we have a chance to give everyone the same chance to demonstrate what they have an interest in, then we can start ascribing gender based preferences. All we can do now is regurgitate the answers we've already told them since they were born. It's just the same thing reflecting back on itself, you know? You can't just raise someone one way all their life, then study them, and then decide that's how they must be innately. That makes absolutely no sense.
What's REALLY funny about all of this, is that we're talking about the girls who already do play as though they are the deviants, weirdos and folks who just aren't 'regular' girls. As if 'regular girls' were this elusive thing to quest for. But don't you realize that the same thing could be said of male gamers? You are all part of a small, small TEENY minority yourselves, certainly not 'regular' guys, right? Because you like to play such violent games? The funny thing is, you probably don't think you're all that different, yet you happily characterize us women, to the point almost of alienation, about how DIFFERENT we are from ordinary women.
That's right...keep making us the enemy. Don't appreciate us for what we are. GAMERS! Who like the stuff you like! But no, make a point to just pretend like we're some thorny conundrum that you haven't figured out yet and focus entirely on women who have no interest in this hobby, like the other millions of men who all think we're (male and female alike) the biggest bunch of dweebs on the planet.
Feh. Gah. Arg.
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