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13th June 2008, 07:11 AM
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| The Monster Project
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13th June 2008, 07:53 PM
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19th June 2008, 06:18 AM
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20th June 2008, 01:34 PM
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| Pretty cool.
Will you ever add in some sort of descriptions or do you think that's going too far? |
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20th June 2008, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Norhg Pretty cool.
Will you ever add in some sort of descriptions or do you think that's going too far? | On the more obscure ones, yes. On the rest... maybe, after I'm done with the basic project- but that will take some time... |
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21st June 2008, 12:59 PM
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| Jester:
You might be able to use the following Master Monster Index to help with your quest: http://www.sulerin.com/creatures/creatures.asp
Simply do a search for "1E 2E" having Any of these words in Source and sort by CR. That should give you some good ideas, I hope, of creatures that have been left out that you might want to include, and a rough level estimate. (Of course, you cold just multiply the CR by 1.5 and estimate from there, but it puts stuff in perspective to one another.)
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25th June 2008, 03:19 AM
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25th June 2008, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rechan One thing I notice is a lack of various monsters, like "Aquatic" "Desert" "Jungle" or "Arctic".
Among other things, several people have complained about a lack of Animals. Tigers, elephants, etc. Though I realize The_Jester is looking for more traditional critters. | Oh, I'm definitely down with some animals- the tiger, f'rinstance, would be a cool one to do up. The trick is assigning appropriate levels to 'em.
For the levels I'm currently working on- 4th through 6th- I think there's an ape or bear or two already listed at lower levels; tiger sounds good to me at maybe 9th or 10th? I can't think of anything ottomh (off the top of my head) that would make a good base 5th level animal that would be different enough to be worth doin' up, though... let me know if you come up with something!
I also plan to do a rhino and possibly a hippo, as well as whatever other interesting and cool animals people suggest/I come up with. |
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25th June 2008, 06:41 AM
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| What's "missing"? I love what you're doing here but I'm at a loss to discern what constitutes a "missing monster" worth converting? How can you possibly be "done" with level 1 monsters when you've only done a couple dozen?
Are you targeting a particular adventure? A particular rules edition? A particular monster manual?
If I'm just being dense, ignore me.
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25th June 2008, 07:36 AM
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| Awesome job so far man! Some of these bring back some great memories.
Are you going to make these available in PDF when they are finished? |
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25th June 2008, 01:40 PM
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| This is sticky-worthy. Thanks for your work, Jester!
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25th June 2008, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by the Jester I think there's an ape or bear or two already listed at lower levels; tiger sounds good to me at maybe 9th or 10th? | One of the things I find interesting about the new monster manual is the lack of mundane, non-magical animals. My impression is that it's not heroic for PCs to be mauled to death by badgers, so mindane animals aren't listed because they shouldn't be very powerful.
1st level characters in 4e are already heroes, so a mundane tiger shouldn't be anywhere near 9th level IMO (that's higher than a standard ogre which should stomp it flat easily).
I would recommend doing what they've done in the MM: make magical versions of tigers at those higher levels and if needed, stick mundane tigers somewhere in the 1st-5th level range. |
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25th June 2008, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMeMeMe My impression is that it's not heroic for PCs to be mauled to death by badgers, so mindane animals aren't listed because they shouldn't be very powerful. | Except for like, the horse.
C'mon, a warhorse is level 3. |
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25th June 2008, 05:13 PM
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| I don't see that as contradicting my point at all. A warhorse is a powerful beast.
The gray wolf is level 2, so some natural animals are in there.
The tiger I could easily see being level 4-6, but not level 9, which is what I was responding to.
Edit: actually, now that I think of it, I'd do fearsome natural beasts like tigers as low level, but make them elite or (occasionally) solos.
That way you can get dangerous fights between heroes and tigers or rhinos or elephants, without having to make them high level. That helps to keep them firmly in the low heroic tier.
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25th June 2008, 05:43 PM
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| Jester -- what "algorithm" are you using to create minions?
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