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    Proposal: Changes to some conventions in the new wiki

    Proposal: I would like to discontinue the usage of the L4W: prefix and remove it from all existing pages. I would also like to make "PC:" a custom namespace.

    Here's why:

    The L4W: prefix in page titles that we have been using is redundant and unnecessary now that we have our own dedicated wiki (l4w.wikia.com). Originally it helped separate content from other stuff in the enworld wiki (and may well have been a custom namespace in that wiki). There is no need to do that in the new wiki.

    The motivation for doing so is that we can use the next level of prefixes as true namespaces. I would like to implement a custom namespace for "PC:" for any player character page. We could do others too, but I'd like to go with "PC:" at first.

    The prefix "PC:" would become a custom namespace. Any page that begins with "PC:" would belong to the namespace for player characters. We can do some conditional formatting on pages and some reporting based on this namespace to improve things like the Character Table report I put together.

    One of the limitations of the current character table is that it pulls pages that belong to "approved characters" or "requesting approval" but will miss any page that doesn't have those category tags. If we implement the "PC:" namespace, it will be easier to make sure that I am grabbing all the characters.

    Besides that, it just makes sense.
    L4W Character: Finnian, 4th Level Longtooth Shifter Beastmaster
    L4W Character: Shun, 1st Level Wilden Stormheart Warden

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldon View Post
    Besides that, it just makes sense.
    I am a fan of things that make sense. Yes

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    How difficult is it to change a wiki page name once it is created? If we change character pages to a different URL, won't this create a dead link and also lose the history of the page?

    I could be completely wrong about this - I honestly don't know. Also, I am not against the idea; I think it's a good one.

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    I also love the idea, but am also curious about changing the current links and pages (if that's even possible). I'll give my vote once I get this info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilbob View Post
    How difficult is it to change a wiki page name once it is created? If we change character pages to a different URL, won't this create a dead link and also lose the history of the page?

    I could be completely wrong about this - I honestly don't know. Also, I am not against the idea; I think it's a good one.
    I agree 100%. I like the idea, but I wouldn't want to have to change every link in the wiki manually if that's what it takes.
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    After having migrated all the wiki pages over to the current location I can tell you I don't look forward to having to move them again...is this just for the PCs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by renau1g View Post
    After having migrated all the wiki pages over to the current location I can tell you I don't look forward to having to move them again...is this just for the PCs?
    Thank you so much for moving everything over. The wiki is such a great resource and I am really grateful that you saved it.

    As part of my proposal, I will volunteer to move the PC pages. It is actually really important that no one rename/move their pages before the namespace is set up. The page might stop working if it is named "PC:something" and then the "PC:" namespace is created.

    As for the rest of the pages, I am looking into running a bot (there are several projects to start from) that can run through all the pages and automate the task of stripping off the "L4W:" prefix.
    L4W Character: Finnian, 4th Level Longtooth Shifter Beastmaster
    L4W Character: Shun, 1st Level Wilden Stormheart Warden

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    I wanted this back on ENWorld (though I recognized the confusion it would cause). Now that there's no confusion in it, I say, "GO FOR IT!"YES!YES!YES!

    Especially if Weldon is on the hook for doing the moving.

    Note: This only counts as one vote. The multiplicity is for emphasis only.


    LEB Character: Arkavas - Deva Artivicer 5
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    L4W Character: Eithal Lemindt Arehei - Goliath Warden 10
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    Well, then you shall have my YES vote also.

    Thank you for volunteering Weldon

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    It's super easy to remove a tag or add one on.

    They all have the PC tag already right? Well except Kane, but that's my problem


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