EscherEnigma
Adventurer
As long as we're talking about "hope for intellectually honest discussion", I think it may become prudent for you to say what could convince you. We can safely conclude that "public actions", "laws", "ended careers", "rape victims being driven out of their towns", "culture that errs on the side of the rapist to the degree of ostracizing the rape victim", "media reactions", "sex education" and "transwomen, particularly transwomen of color, continue to suffer extreme amounts of violence and murder" are all not on said list.States? Plural? Advertisements? Plural? Billboards? Plural?
Actually, it was one billboard, in one city, apparently over a misunderstanding. "However, buses all over town are still cruising the streets baring the original posters of the wrestlers --male nipples and all." http://www.tmz.com/2008/03/28/wwe-puts-the-squeeze-on-nipples/
See, when folks start pointing at one or two individual instances of stupidity, or mistakes, or personal over-zealousness, and then claim those minor instances are indicative of a vast pattern, any hope for intellectually honest discussion is lost.
Bullgrit
Edit: Heck, I'll even go first. I could be convinced that America is not sexually repressed if
(a) no sexual identity or expression was not positively correlated (to a statistically significant degree) with increased abuse, bias and violence.
(b) 50% of rapists spend at least a day behind bars (not even prison, just a holding cell) as a consequence of said rape (not even a conviction necessary).
(c) Female and male promiscuity are treated equally.
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