TwoSix
Dirty, realism-hating munchkin powergamer
Isn't it wacky that the game has a single unified resolution system, except for the weird cases where it does opposed rolls instead?
The answer, of course, is "Yes, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯".
d20 vs 2d20
The answer, of course, is "Yes, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯".
Satyrn
First Post
I wish Turn Undead was more like the wacky versions of previous editions.
The Crimson Binome
Hero
That's why I was talking about a flat d20 roll against DC 11, specifically. If you have a bonus to the roll, or if the DC is higher than 11, then rolling more dice will favor whichever result was already more probable... but probably not enough to worry about... I think...
Just use the optional proficiency dice system and get even more dice involved.
Fyi - i like the p-die myself.
The Crimson Binome
Hero
The dice are an illusion. They only impact the game in as far as they determine the result of an action, and both types of action only have two possible results.
Rule simplicity is also a factor, because they want the game to be easy to learn. Grapple checks are one of those weird exceptions to the normal flow of combat which is not supposed to ever really come up. They need a rule for it, just in case, but it's too obscure of a situation to warrant defining a "passive Athletics" stat like they did with passive Perception.
jmucchiello
Hero
Seems simple to just have a passive stat for all skills. Passive Perception is an exception only to save time. So why not save time with grapples, too?
jmucchiello
Hero
Thank you for summarizing my OP so succinctly.
The Crimson Binome
Hero
I agree. They should have gone that route.
The best explanation that I can think of is that they tried that, then someone looked at a character sheet that had a whole long list of calculated passive skill values, and thought it looked too intimidating. It doesn't seem like it should be a big deal, but in terms of appearance, it looks like it adds more complexity than it really does.
jmucchiello
Hero
Why put it on the sheet? Just say passive x is 10 + mod of x. Usually only the DM cares about the DC of these rolls so the player is just told "Make an athletics check. The DC to grapple the kraken is 23."
Or "the alligator tries to grapple you, what is your athletics?" "+3" "okay he needs to beat DC 13." Roll happens.
The passive stat never needs to be on the character sheet. (Passive perception also never needs to be on the char sheet, unless something specifically affects the passive stat. Something so rare it could be an exception.)
Or "the alligator tries to grapple you, what is your athletics?" "+3" "okay he needs to beat DC 13." Roll happens.
The passive stat never needs to be on the character sheet. (Passive perception also never needs to be on the char sheet, unless something specifically affects the passive stat. Something so rare it could be an exception.)
LordEntrails
Hero
Then go for it, make every roll opposed and see how long and slow your combats become. Or, remove all opposed rolls and replace with passives. Neither are going to break the mechanics.
The way it is now is a compromise.
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