Matrix Sorcica
Hero
Actually, using online calculators, it looks like using monster xp without any multiplication at all yields usable and similar results.
Tell Me About Your Experiences With High Level 5E
cmad1977
Hero
Trust me. Avoiding some of the ‘advice’ one can get is pretty damn useful.
CapnZapp
Legend
Who's talking about 4E?
I'm talking about the notion of using the PHB with published hardback adventures.
Weak-sauce. Do it yourself.
The poster questioning if the game really understands how powerful heroes become using the goodies the PHB alone gives them gets it.
I just recalled a blog post from a year or two ago by Sly Flourish, that talks about running a campaign from levels 1-20. It is relevant to this topic and might be of interest to the interested reader. You can find it here: http://slyflourish.com/running_dnd_5e_from_1_to_20.html
Sounds like we're running similar high-level campaigns, my group is about to start their journey to take on Demogorgon.
We recently finished Out of the Abyss at 14th level and when the DM asked what our PCs were doing, I said my half-orc barbarian was trying to figure out a way into the Abyss because it just didn't seem right that they weren't really dead. Hopefully we get to eventually roll Tier IV versions of our heroes into the Lower Planes to finish the job.
Cool. I’m reworking OotA to be a high level campaign where the PCs have to be the demonbusters and clean out the Underdark
This is after LMoP -> ToD with SKT thrown in for good measure!
Zardnaar
Legend
High level D&D is more of an art form than a science. Some of the older adventures gives you some idea on what to do. For example a naval adventure on a boat with 4 Triton wizards riding dolphins lobbing lightning bolts (32d6 damage), multiple hell hounds, traps, puzzles, and magical dungeons etc. I can do it I'm not a big fan due to the zaniness even if the power level is reasonably low (say level 21-25 in the old BECMI, we each had a personal flying ship).
Celebrim
Legend
That's been basically true for anything above about 12th level since the game came out in the '70's.
That's not entirely true. BECMI actually had pretty robust high level support, from high level adventures to domain and war rules, all the way up to becoming an Immortal.
Celebrim
Legend
Yeah, I might concede that. I haven't done anything from BECMI beyond 'Companion' level, and when I used that material it was with AD&D PC's, but certainly BECMI had spent more time working out the numbers it needed and wasn't afraid of them.
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