D&D 5E Question on Ranger's and traps

ScuroNotte · Oct 29, 2018

In Xanathar's Guide it states that Thieves' Tools is required to disable Bear Traps and Trip Wires. Does that require Rangers to gain the Thieves' Tools to set or disarm these traps; even if the traps are not their own.

I have not found much written on this subject.

I know some allow the Ranger use Survival checks to disarm traps that do not require keys or have locks.
Others require Thieves' Tools to disarm these traps.

What would you require or allow for a Ranger to disarm hunting traps or other traps that would be encountered through "traveling":

Ranger can use Survival if trap has no locks or doesn't require keys
Ranger needs proficiency in Thieves' Tools
You do something else

collin · Oct 29, 2018

ScuroNotte said:
[FONT=&]In Xanathar's Guide it states that Thieves' Tools is required to disable Bear Traps and Trip Wires. Does that require Rangers to gain the Thieves' Tools to set or disarm these traps; even if the traps are not their own.

I have not found much written on this subject.

I know some allow the Ranger use Survival checks to disarm traps that do not require keys or have locks.
Others require Thieves' Tools to disarm these traps.[/FONT]
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What would you require or allow for a Ranger to disarm hunting traps or other traps that would be encountered through "traveling":
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Ranger can use Survival if trap has no locks or doesn't require keys

Ranger needs proficiency in Thieves' Tools

You do something else

My response for the Ranger is:
- use Survival if the trap has no particular lock mechanism

Hriston · Oct 29, 2018

If a trap requires thieves’ tools to disarm then you need to have the actual tool kit. Being proficient allows you to add your proficiency bonus to any checks your DM asks for to disarm the traps. If you aren’t proficient, you can still try to use the tools. You just don’t get to add your bonus if you have to make a check.

5ekyu · Oct 29, 2018

Bear traps are to me an example trap that would not need thieves tools to set off or disarm if found without triggering.

Rya.Reisender · Oct 29, 2018

Pretty sure "having locks" and "requiring a key" is not the only reason why Thieves' Tools are required to disarm traps as those tools also include "a small mirror mounted on a metal handle, a set of narrow-bladed scissors, and a pair of pliers."

The DM determines what ability, skill and tool proficiencies apply depending not only on the trap, but also on the approach of the PC.

ScuroNotte · Oct 29, 2018

Rya.Reisender said:
Pretty sure "having locks" and "requiring a key" is not the only reason why Thieves' Tools are required to disarm traps as those tools also include "a small mirror mounted on a metal handle, a set of narrow-bladed scissors, and a pair of pliers."

The DM determines what ability, skill and tool proficiencies apply depending not only on the trap, but also on the approach of the PC.

I understand. I was trying to think of a way without encroaching completely on that skill set.

ScuroNotte · Oct 29, 2018

5ekyu said:
Bear traps are to me an example trap that would not need thieves tools to set off or disarm if found without triggering.

That's what I thought until Xanathar's guide. I know it can be homebrewed.

5ekyu · Oct 29, 2018

ScuroNotte said:
That's what I thought until Xanathar's guide. I know it can be homebrewed.

Its not homebrew - read XGtE again... About countermeasures it says the following:

"If the characters discover a trap, be open to adjudicating their ideas for defeating it. The trap’s description is a starting point for countermeasures, rather than a complete definition."

aco175 · Oct 29, 2018

A simple trap like this I would just let them disarm. Now with tools you can make it rigged to go off is someone tries to disarm. 5e traps do not seem as powerful as older editions so they are easy to bypass once noticed.

BookBarbarian · Oct 29, 2018

Any trap designed to injure or tap an animal would be very simple to safely trigger with a stick. I think the trick would be noticing them in time.

Any trap that requires Thieves tools to disarm is not meant for beasts, but for the slaying of undesirable humanoid intruders.

At least that's the guideline I use.

D&D 5E Question on Ranger's and traps

ScuroNotte

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collin

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Hriston

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5ekyu

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5ekyu

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aco175

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