OOC Sword of Valor, Wrath of the Righteous AP by MLeibrock and Scotley

Lou

Explorer
The option that has grabbed my attention so far is the Unchained Rogue with magic talents and maxed use magic device. What would that look likle, specifically?

Perhaps this guide can help:

http://rpgbot.net/pathfinder/characters/classes/unchained_rogue/


[h=4]Counterfeit Mage[/h] UMD is widely considered one of the most powerful skills in the game due to its fantastic versatility. If you really like to use UMD to use wands and scrolls, this archetype is the way to do it.
Magical Expertise (Ex): You get to keep the important part of Trapfinding (the ability to find and disable magical traps), and you trade the less important part for the ability to add half of your Rogue level to UMD checks to use scrolls and wands, which should cover most of your uses of UMD. You need a +19 to UMD to guarantee that you can always use a wand, and this will help you hit that point much earlier than most characters could.
Signature Wand (Ex): The ability to draw your wand as a free action is nice, but not always necessary. If you plan to use wands you need to have high enough UMD that making checks shouldn't be a problem, so the ability to use your signature wand without a check will stop mattering by around level 10. For the time being, this allows you to reliably use UMD before most Rogues can do so.
Wand Adept (Ex): Nearly every Rogue will have higher Dexterity than Charisma, so this should be a significant boost to your UMD checks.
Replaced Features: Trapfinding, Rogue Talent (4th)

Compatible Archetypes: Bandit, Burglar, Sanctified Rogue, Scout, Trapsmith


 
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Neurotic

I plan on living forever. Or die trying.
I never played a rogue, but I know some of the talents include magic. And that archetype lou linked sounds perfect

As for maxed UMD, take traits that give bonuses, use inteligencije instead of Charisma, take spellcraft and buy wands and scrolls to use
 

Neurotic

I plan on living forever. Or die trying.
Int to UMD trait is...practiced caster? And bonus comes from dangerously curious...not sure if both are magic traits though
 


Scotley

Hero
I'm not sure if you're counting me or not, but I'd like to re-join with Banaq the elf sorcerer, if Scotley will allow it. And I'm more of an 'old peep,' Shayuri, and not just because of my advanced age.

You can rejoin immediately if you wish as I have been npc'ing him for this encounter. Making him over as an unchained rogue at this point won't cause too much chaos. I'll try to post up some suggestions for that shortly.
 


Scotley

Hero
The option that has grabbed my attention so far is the Unchained Rogue with magic talents and maxed use magic device. What would that look like, specifically?

The unchained rogue
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unchained-classes/rogue-unchained
Gets some spell like Rogue Talent choices. You get one at 2nd, 4th and 6th and so on every two levels. Some of the most magic like ones include:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unc...rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/minor-magic
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unc...rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/major-magic
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/gloom-magic-sp
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...ts/paizo-rogue-talents/greater-gloom-magic-sp
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unc...-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/esoteric-scholar
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...talents/paizo-rogue-talents/obscuring-blow-ex
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...zo-rogue-advanced-talents/shadow-duplicate-sp
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...talents/paizo-rogue-talents/shadow-s-chill-su
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/umbral-gear-su

Once you hit 10th level you can pick up Advanced Talents, which will give even more options for magic like talents including things like dispelling magic with your sneak attack and even getting a familiar.

As others have said you want to max out Use Magic Device (UMD) to allow you to use magic items like wands.

As also suggested, you could modify the unchained rogue class with an archtype and there are lots of them, but nearly all of them require you to give up primary rogue abilities like trapfiniding, sneak attack, skill ranks or evasion in favor of the magical abilities. Here's a list, note that I'm only allowing the official Paizo ones not the third party. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/archetypes/
 



Leif

Adventurer
The unchained rogue
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unchained-classes/rogue-unchained
Gets some spell like Rogue Talent choices. You get one at 2nd, 4th and 6th and so on every two levels. Some of the most magic like ones include:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unc...rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/minor-magic
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unc...rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/major-magic
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/gloom-magic-sp
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...ts/paizo-rogue-talents/greater-gloom-magic-sp
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/unc...-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/esoteric-scholar
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...talents/paizo-rogue-talents/obscuring-blow-ex
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...zo-rogue-advanced-talents/shadow-duplicate-sp
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/cor...talents/paizo-rogue-talents/shadow-s-chill-su
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo-rogue-talents/umbral-gear-su

Once you hit 10th level you can pick up Advanced Talents, which will give even more options for magic like talents including things like dispelling magic with your sneak attack and even getting a familiar.

As others have said you want to max out Use Magic Device (UMD) to allow you to use magic items like wands.

As also suggested, you could modify the unchained rogue class with an archtype and there are lots of them, but nearly all of them require you to give up primary rogue abilities like trapfiniding, sneak attack, skill ranks or evasion in favor of the magical abilities. Here's a list, note that I'm only allowing the official Paizo ones not the third party. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/archetypes/


Too many choices!! I'd be willing to let you make the decisions and post-up a finalized sheet for me to copy to the RG... if that's something that you'd be willing to do and the rest of the players would tolerate,
 

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