4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

[thecasualoblivion]

One issue is that some people feel they can contribute to the downfall of 4E and quicken the appearance of a hypothetical 5E more to their liking by making a fuss on message boards. The edition war is real to some people.

 

[Darrin Drader]

Depends on whether you would rather enjoy the stuff you like, or try to make sure that nobody enjoys the stuff you don't like.

Exactly!

 

[Shroomy]

depends on whether you would rather enjoy the stuff you like, or try to make sure that nobody enjoys the stuff you don't like.

qft.

 

[Jasperak]

They just make games. Any alienation you feel is not due to any particular edition of this game.

Play the game you want to play. If it's any kind of D&D, you'll find support for it here, if not many other places on the web.

But if all you want to do is complain about some imagined slight... could you do it elsewhere? Please?

Thanks, -- N

First, I am going to assume you mean "you" as anybody that is complaining, not specifically directed at me.

Second, the thread title is "4e being immune to criticism." Are you implying that 4e should be immune to criticism? This is Morrus' house. He gets to decide what topics are allowed. If people can follow the rules and have civilized discussions then people should be able to complain about the new edition.

 

[thecasualoblivion]

First, I am going to assume you mean "you" as anybody that is complaining, not specifically directed at me.

Second, the thread title is "4e being immune to criticism." Are you implying that 4e should be immune to criticism? This is Morrus' house. He gets to decide what topics are allowed. If people can follow the rules and have civilized discussions then people should be able to complain about the new edition.

This thread was in response to a quote from another thread that spoke of people responding as if 4E should be immune to criticism, and my response that a lot of the so called criticisms are statements of preference as opposed to discussion points, and other ways that "criticism" isn't criticism. After recent posts, I would add that a lot of negative 4E comments aren't criticism as much as they are salvos in an "edition war".

 

[Fifth Element]

Depends on whether you would rather enjoy the stuff you like, or try to make sure that nobody enjoys the stuff you don't like.

Very well put. People expend a lot of energy here discussing things they don't even like.

 

[thecasualoblivion]

Very well put. People expend a lot of energy here discussing things they don't even like.

There is a saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Positive or negative, 4E dominates all conversation. Maybe all the fervor against 4E is actually a testament to its success?

 

[JeffB]

There is a saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Positive or negative, 4E dominates all conversation. Maybe all the fervor against 4E is actually a testament to its success?

Cue vehement rebuttal in 3...2...1...

 

[Fifth Element]

There is a saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Positive or negative, 4E dominates all conversation. Maybe all the fervor against 4E is actually a testament to its success?

Well, there is such thing as bad publicity. But yeah, you might be right.

 

[Treebore]

Forked from: Sentimentality And D&D Editions OR Happiness Is The Edition That Brings You Joy




I see it as this way. A lot of "criticism" of 4E amounts to "it isn't OD&D/1E/2E/3E" and "I prefer edition X". People may go into detail about things, but the core meaning of what they say isn't any more than that. That doesn't really qualify as criticism. You are just stating a preference or lack therof and calling it criticism.

I could criticize a lot about 4E. Why should I? Bottom line is it doesn't excite me. So I don't play or run it. Why bother to try and convince anyone to see things my way? Like every other edition of D&D you can play it and have fun. Thats all that matters.