No longer his circus, no longer his monkeys

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Dannyalcatraz

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The whole Ryan & Freedom Caucus relationship reminds me of something...

Hmmm...what was it now?

Oh yes- they've got his back, now!

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Umbran

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The whole Ryan & Freedom Caucus relationship reminds me of something...

Hmmm...what was it now?

Oh yes- they've got his back, now!

Well, among his conditions for taking the role are some changes so that they can't easily stab him in the back. Once they put him in there, he will not be as easy to threaten with an ousting. Plus, by most reports I have heard, he doesn't really want the job, but will do it because nobody else can/will. Threaten to oust him, and what's his reply going to be? "Finally, I can get out of here!"
 

tuxgeo

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The last news I read about this subject was that the Freedom Caucus was continuing to support Webster. Since having their support was a precondition to Ryan's accepting the job in the first place, he doesn't seem destined for it now.
 

Umbran

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The last news I read about this subject was that the Freedom Caucus was continuing to support Webster. Since having their support was a precondition to Ryan's accepting the job in the first place, he doesn't seem destined for it now.

When was that? As of this morning, CNN says that Ryan supposedly has 70% of the Freedom Caucus behind him - not a full endorsement by the caucus yet, but enough that he's continuing.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/paul-ryan-house-speaker-freedom-caucus/index.html
 

tuxgeo

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Yeah, I still had ahold of yesterday's news. Today, I came to EN World before checking. Thanks for the CNN update.

Today, The Strait Times (just to use a different source) states that Ryan barely has the votes to become Speaker, should he enter the race as a formal candidate, which he hasn't done yet.

That article goes on to quote a statement from the Freedom Caucus saying, "While no consensus exists among members of the House Freedom Caucus regarding chairman Ryan's preconditions for serving, we believe that these issues can be resolved within our conference in due time."
 

Umbran

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That article goes on to quote a statement from the Freedom Caucus saying, "While no consensus exists among members of the House Freedom Caucus regarding chairman Ryan's preconditions for serving, we believe that these issues can be resolved within our conference in due time."

From articles I've read, "consensus" as far as Ryan is concerned, was at 80% support of the caucus.

I don't agree with Ryan on much, but I am not of the opinion that he's so dumb as to step into the role unless his preconditions are met beforehand. So, "due time" needs to be the next couple of weeks.
 

Dannyalcatraz

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Especially with the 28th being the date set for the selection, as I recall. Ryan and I may differ in our politics, but if know for a fact the man ain't dumb. The question is how obstreporus is the Freedom Caucus? How willing are they to push hard for strict adherence to (their interpretation of) conservative doctrine versus the long term health of the country in general and the GOP in particular?

Because if Ryan DOES become SotH, I predict that it will be a short honeymoon. The 30% who don't like him are already calling him "RyNo", with appropriate graphics.
 




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