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lowkey13
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I think before this can be discussed, everyone will need to agree on a definition of "immersion."
Since all those subsystems are disconnected, they all feel like disconnected math. They are not *nearly* so, "fits exactly as it was designed, for both flavorwise and possible outcomes", in my opinion. There's a whole lot in there that's awkwardly wedged into the Gygaxian design style, largely because the world hadn't explored much of the possible mechanics space at that time. And each time that awkwardness becomes apparent, it breaks us out of roles, and into rules.
There is much that is subjective.
For example, in the quote you give, "nothing ever feels like disconnected math, or like a square peg and a round hole. This makes the imagined scene feel richer and more immediate." I could disagree more, but it would require power tools.
Since all those subsystems are disconnected, they all feel like disconnected math. They are not *nearly* so, "fits exactly as it was designed, for both flavorwise and possible outcomes", in my opinion. There's a whole lot in there that's awkwardly wedged into the Gygaxian design style, largely because the world hadn't explored much of the possible mechanics space at that time. And each time that awkwardness becomes apparent, it breaks us out of roles, and into rules.