tail wags dog: streamers want to say 'aaargh' so we are getting a pirate adventure


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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I'm sorry, but that just means your stupid.

Blimey. I didn't notice this one.

No matter how strongly you disagree with somebody, please do not use my messageboard for namecalling.
 
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Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
I mean, this was the wird’s original meaning, but it eventually came to be a more generic term for an old soldier. Likewise, gorignard may have originally meant the folks who didn’t want to adopt 2e, but it has since become a general term for gamers who stick with outdated rulesets when new ones become a available. When I was an edition soldier, “Grognard” mostly referred to 3e/PF fans. Nowadays the 4e crowd could be considered grognards.

Yes, thus, "But, you know, language weakens, generalizes, and loses meaning over time. Call yourself what you want. "

But then again, if you started RPGs with 3e, and call yourself a grognard... you are not going to earn much respect from people who have been gaming for 20 years longer than you have...
 

5ekyu

Hero
Yes, thus, "But, you know, language weakens, generalizes, and loses meaning over time. Call yourself what you want. "

But then again, if you started RPGs with 3e, and call yourself a grognard... you are not going to earn much respect from people who have been gaming for 20 years longer than you have...
I am just a self-proclaimed old fart, too crotchety to worry whether i am a grognard.
 


Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Yes, thus, "But, you know, language weakens, generalizes, and loses meaning over time. Call yourself what you want. "

But then again, if you started RPGs with 3e, and call yourself a grognard... you are not going to earn much respect from people who have been gaming for 20 years longer than you have...

Who calls themselves a grognard? It has connotations of stodginess and fear of change and is generally used to denigrate people for being behind the times when it comes to gaming. And who wants to earn the respect of people who gatekeep the term from people they don’t think are old and stodgy enough?
 

Reynard

Legend
Who calls themselves a grognard? It has connotations of stodginess and fear of change and is generally used to denigrate people for being behind the times when it comes to gaming. And who wants to earn the respect of people who gatekeep the term from people they don’t think are old and stodgy enough?

People align themselves with uncharitable terminology all the time. Sometimes they do it to take that terminology back. Sometimes they do it to show they don't accept others' value judgements. Sometimes they do it just to be difficult.

That aside, here's the thing about this whole theory, at least the way I see it: like all good conspiracy theories, it puts the theorist at the center of things. It makes them important. They know a thing no one else knows, or are important enough that folks plan around or against them. And really, in this case, it doesn't hurt anyone or anything. If a certain subset of the fanbase wants to believe that its those darn streamers that are making D&D go awry, who cares? It is no different than the 4E is WoW crowd or the 3E is for powergamers, or 2E caters to soccer moms, or anything else.
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
By that definition, Diaglo would have been one of the few to qualify, as he called that stuff from 1978 “new-fangled”. I do miss him around here....

@diaglo should still be around? Huh...I will ping him on the facebooks....
 



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